Hello everyone.

Here's a link to PASSPORT's latest posting which, I am sure, will be
of interest to all.

http://passband.com/pages/receivernews.htm

It looks to me that Sony wants to exit thie market. Better "get 'em
while you can!"

With a large number of SW radios being sold in the US (not to mention
Europe, Asia, and Africa), you kind of wonder what goes through the
heads of these marketing "geniuses?" Sure they don't sell in the
numbers of the Apple IPod, etc., but, then, they don't have to be
redesigned every three months. Once development costs are amortized,
it costs very little, relatively speaking, to manufacture a product
that sells in small but consistent numbers over many years. At least
this is what I have been told. I guess they just don't want to bother
even "thinking" about SW radio. Akio Morita was a true genius; the
"managers" who have followed him seem to be sadly lacking in
brain-power.

I hope that one of the other manufacturers can license Sony's "sync"
circuitry (or, even better, design their own, perhaps superior, one).
It's the "sync" circuitry which makes the Sony radios stand way out
ahead of the competition. Sony's radios, truth to tell, are no better
than anyone else's except for that circuit (and, of course, their
build quality). I'm surprised that Sangean and Degen have not tried to
design one and I'm very surprised that Eton, with their Drake
connection (Drake's circuit is better than Sony's), have not tried to
incorporate it into a Yacht-Boy 400 "A" model.

Frankly, after using synchronous selectable sideband circuitry for the
last six years or so (and having plenty of experience without the
circuit), I won't buy any receiver which does not incorporate it.

Lawrence

LHB,

If in-fact Sony is getting out of the Shorwave Radio 'business'.
Then they may be able to leverage their current SW Radio Knowledge
Base (Design and Patents) into a deal with a Chinese Manufacture
for a Percentage of the Company and a 'share' of the Up-and-Growing
Chinese "Made" Radio Market.

Imaging a Tecsun GEM China built Sony ICF-2010 'clone' for under $200 )

jm2cw ~ RHF
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Hello everyone.

Here's a link to PASSPORT's latest posting which, I am sure, will be
of interest to all.

http://passband.com/pages/receivernews.htm

It looks to me that Sony wants to exit thie market. Better "get 'em
while you can!"

With a large number of SW radios being sold in the US (not to mention
Europe, Asia, and Africa), you kind of wonder what goes through the
heads of these marketing "geniuses?" Sure they don't sell in the
numbers of the Apple IPod, etc., but, then, they don't have to be
redesigned every three months. Once development costs are amortized,
it costs very little, relatively speaking, to manufacture a product
that sells in small but consistent numbers over many years. At least
this is what I have been told. I guess they just don't want to bother
even "thinking" about SW radio. Akio Morita was a true genius; the
"managers" who have followed him seem to be sadly lacking in
brain-power.

I hope that one of the other manufacturers can license Sony's "sync"
circuitry (or, even better, design their own, perhaps superior, one).
It's the "sync" circuitry which makes the Sony radios stand way out
ahead of the competition. Sony's radios, truth to tell, are no better
than anyone else's except for that circuit (and, of course, their
build quality). I'm surprised that Sangean and Degen have not tried to
design one and I'm very surprised that Eton, with their Drake
connection (Drake's circuit is better than Sony's), have not tried to
incorporate it into a Yacht-Boy 400 "A" model.

Frankly, after using synchronous selectable sideband circuitry for the
last six years or so (and having plenty of experience without the
circuit), I won't buy any receiver which does not incorporate it.

Lawrence

(RHF) wrote ...

Imagine a Tecsun GEM China built Sony ICF-2010 'clone' for under $200 )


A 2010 clone for 2 bills?

I'll take one. Maybe 2.

"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote:

Hello everyone.

Here's a link to PASSPORT's latest posting which, I am sure, will be
of interest to all.

http://passband.com/pages/receivernews.htm

It looks to me that Sony wants to exit thie market. Better "get 'em
while you can!"

With a large number of SW radios being sold in the US (not to mention
Europe, Asia, and Africa), you kind of wonder what goes through the
heads of these marketing "geniuses?" Sure they don't sell in the
numbers of the Apple IPod, etc., but, then, they don't have to be
redesigned every three months. Once development costs are amortized,
it costs very little, relatively speaking, to manufacture a product
that sells in small but consistent numbers over many years. At least
this is what I have been told. I guess they just don't want to bother
even "thinking" about SW radio. Akio Morita was a true genius; the
"managers" who have followed him seem to be sadly lacking in
brain-power.

I hope that one of the other manufacturers can license Sony's "sync"
circuitry (or, even better, design their own, perhaps superior, one).
It's the "sync" circuitry which makes the Sony radios stand way out
ahead of the competition. Sony's radios, truth to tell, are no better
than anyone else's except for that circuit (and, of course, their
build quality). I'm surprised that Sangean and Degen have not tried to
design one and I'm very surprised that Eton, with their Drake
connection (Drake's circuit is better than Sony's), have not tried to
incorporate it into a Yacht-Boy 400 "A" model.

Frankly, after using synchronous selectable sideband circuitry for the
last six years or so (and having plenty of experience without the
circuit), I won't buy any receiver which does not incorporate it.

Lawrence

Sony is actually considering getting out of all consumer electronics
products. Guess what that leaves?


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starman wrote in message ...

Sony is actually considering getting out of all consumer electronics
products. Guess what that leaves?


Sony is "a ass!"

Lawrence

Great thought, but would the build quality be good? Sony's
Chinese-made ICF-SW35 is excellent, the best of any Chinese-made
portable I have seen. Even the Chinese-made Sangean ATS-606A is very,
very good; but, as we all know, the Grundig Satellit 800 has never had
consistency of quality. (Don't misunderstand - I like very much my
Sat. 800. But I had to have the encoder and some knobs replaced and
the set generally refurbished by Drake, for $109, after less than four
years of careful use and care. My wife even made a cover for the radio
which I keep on it when it is not in use.)

I'm a bit dubious about a sophisticated radio, designed elsewhere,
being manufactured in China.

Lawrence

(RHF) wrote in message . com...
LHB,

If in-fact Sony is getting out of the Shorwave Radio 'business'.
Then they may be able to leverage their current SW Radio Knowledge
Base (Design and Patents) into a deal with a Chinese Manufacture
for a Percentage of the Company and a 'share' of the Up-and-Growing
Chinese "Made" Radio Market.

Imaging a Tecsun GEM China built Sony ICF-2010 'clone' for under $200 )

jm2cw ~ RHF

Don't want to toot my own horn, but if you remember that I first
posted that the SW-77 was being phased out back in October when I
purchased mine for $300 from the Sony Store here in San Juan, PR. The
manager of the store told me that the receiver was no longer going to
be available this year. After that, I received a few incredulous
emails from different posters demanding where I got that information
and why was I so irresponsible in making such a post without verifying
it first from industry officials. It's unfortunate however that my
information was correct.


Marty
San Juan, PR

In article ,
Lawrence H. Bulk wrote:

Sony is "a ass!"

No, the're smart. Up until 1999 Sony was a consumer electronics company.
Since 1999 they have been an electronic game company that made about 10%
or so of their income from ALL of their other products.

In 1999 they made more money from the Playstation than all of their other
products combined in the history of the company.

The best thing they could do is sell off what is not Playstation related and
concentrate on their "cash cow".

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson

If Sony does indeed get out of all of their shortwave radio products, they
could make a killing selling their "synch detector on a chip" to Chinese
manufacturers.

--- Stinger

"LW" wrote in message
om...
(RHF) wrote ...

Imagine a Tecsun GEM China built Sony ICF-2010 'clone' for under $200
)


A 2010 clone for 2 bills?

I'll take one. Maybe 2.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

In article ,
Lawrence H. Bulk wrote:

Sony is "a ass!"

No, the're smart. Up until 1999 Sony was a consumer electronics company.
Since 1999 they have been an electronic game company that made about 10%
or so of their income from ALL of their other products.

In 1999 they made more money from the Playstation than all of their other
products combined in the history of the company.

The best thing they could do is sell off what is not Playstation related and
concentrate on their "cash cow".

But there's still money to be made in consumer electronics, and even
shortwave radios. Look at Degen's product line, which is almost
exclusively SW capable radios. Problem is, Japan is an extremely high
cost country, and Playstation is a high cost (and high yield) product,
and consumer electronics is low yield, so it makes sense for Sony to
focus on Playstation. The danger is that somebody else will come along
with a better game console and PS will become the next Sega Genesis
(remember that?) and Sony, having put all its eggs in one basket, will
go casters up. Personally, I think the future of consumer electronics is
in China instead of Japan, and Sony's betting the farm on PS is a
reflection of a struggle to stay afloat in the face of Chinese
competition.