I put the ball to a metal grinder and I could easily see an outer F layer
and then the E layer. I couldn't find a D layer, but it was dark outside
and there's not supposed to be a D layer at night. Neat how antenna's can
be manufactured to do that.

Just passed my tech and General on Sunday so I'll be on the bands as
soon as I find out my callsign and get an ionsphere for my antenna. I
destroyed the old one on the grinder and I hear you need a good ionsphere
to shoot good skip and hear far away stations. Reception has been really
****ty lately without the ionsphere. I looked through the last 4 issues of
QST and I couldn't find anyone selling ionsphere's. Where can I get one,
or do I have to buy a whole new antenna?

Thanks, Jay

Jay wrote:
I put the ball to a metal grinder and I could easily see an outer F layer
and then the E layer. I couldn't find a D layer, but it was dark outside
troll

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Jay wrote:
I put the ball to a metal grinder and I could easily see an outer F layer
and then the E layer. I couldn't find a D layer, but it was dark outside
troll


I'm not so sure he's a troll.. it's a funny routine, and probably is meant
as such. We really need something to lighten up this NG a little.

Why, like every other ham here, don't you just use a cell phone and
save yourself a few thousand bucks !

Brenda Ann wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Jay wrote:
I put the ball to a metal grinder and I could easily see an outer F layer
and then the E layer. I couldn't find a D layer, but it was dark outside
troll


I'm not so sure he's a troll.. it's a funny routine, and probably is meant
as such. We really need something to lighten up this NG a little.
I amsure he is a troll

Jay -- wrong approach

Propagation is conrolled by the Palos Verdes Sundancers see URL:
http://www.ve1dx.net/Stories/story109.html


--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !


"Jay" wrote in message
k.net...
I put the ball to a metal grinder and I could easily see an outer F layer
and then the E layer. I couldn't find a D layer, but it was dark outside
and there's not supposed to be a D layer at night. Neat how antenna's can
be manufactured to do that.

Just passed my tech and General on Sunday so I'll be on the bands as
soon as I find out my callsign and get an ionsphere for my antenna. I
destroyed the old one on the grinder and I hear you need a good ionsphere
to shoot good skip and hear far away stations. Reception has been really
****ty lately without the ionsphere. I looked through the last 4 issues of
QST and I couldn't find anyone selling ionsphere's. Where can I get one,
or do I have to buy a whole new antenna?

Thanks, Jay

Jay wrote in
k.net:

I put the ball to a metal grinder and I could easily see an outer F
layer and then the E layer. I couldn't find a D layer, but it was
dark outside and there's not supposed to be a D layer at night. Neat
how antenna's can be manufactured to do that.

Just passed my tech and General on Sunday so I'll be on the bands as
soon as I find out my callsign and get an ionsphere for my antenna. I
destroyed the old one on the grinder and I hear you need a good
ionsphere to shoot good skip and hear far away stations. Reception has
been really ****ty lately without the ionsphere. I looked through the
last 4 issues of QST and I couldn't find anyone selling ionsphere's.
Where can I get one, or do I have to buy a whole new antenna?


You don't need a new one. The old one probably got stuck in your coax
by back-feed when you were grinding. Just get an RF brush and give your
coax a few swipes and the ionosphere should pop right back out!


Ed K7AAT

asraped by an_old_friend wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ps.com...

Jay wrote:
I put the ball to a metal grinder and I could easily see an outer F layer
and then the E layer. I couldn't find a D layer, but it was dark outside
troll


I'm not so sure he's a troll.. it's a funny routine, and probably is meant
as such. We really need something to lighten up this NG a little.
I amsure he is a troll

Speaking from experience, dumbass?

wrote:
asraped by an_old_friend wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:

I amsure he is a troll

Speaking from experience, dumbass?
nope

Ed wrote:
Jay wrote in
k.net:

I put the ball to a metal grinder and I could easily see an outer F
layer and then the E layer. I couldn't find a D layer, but it was
dark outside and there's not supposed to be a D layer at night. Neat
how antenna's can be manufactured to do that.

Just passed my tech and General on Sunday so I'll be on the bands as
soon as I find out my callsign and get an ionsphere for my antenna. I
destroyed the old one on the grinder and I hear you need a good
ionsphere to shoot good skip and hear far away stations. Reception has
been really ****ty lately without the ionsphere. I looked through the
last 4 issues of QST and I couldn't find anyone selling ionsphere's.
Where can I get one, or do I have to buy a whole new antenna?


You don't need a new one. The old one probably got stuck in your coax
by back-feed when you were grinding. Just get an RF brush and give your
coax a few swipes and the ionosphere should pop right back out!

Don't forget the electron grease.

--
Britney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics
http://britneyspears.ac/lasers.htm