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"Kim W5TIT" wrote in
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"Bert Craig" wrote in message
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"Alun" wrote in message
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It just so happens that I don't
like CW, in the sense of I have no desire to use it. That
should be OK too, but for some reason it bothers you. Why?

No it does not bother me that someone who has learned it chooses
not to use it. They have made that decision from a position of
knowledge and experience. This is radically different from a
person judging it and saying they will never use it when they do
not have that knowledge and experience to draw on.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Right on the money, Dee. Larry pointed this out earlier, but not as
eloquently as you.

73 de Bert
WA2SI



It fascinates me that you won't accept someone's plain and simple
truth that they don't like CW--even if they don't have experience
with it--because you reason that they need to have "knowledge and
experience" with it. Well, I know people who are quite well-versed
in CW who don't like it, people who haven't ever even tried it and
don't like it, and people who have taken and passed a 5wpm test and
don't like it. I also know people from those same three categories
that do like CW operation.

It's pretty much as simple as folks who do or don't like most other
things in life. Either ya like it or ya don't.

Kim W5TIT




I think that you have hit upon a very important point there, Kim. A
good analogy might be not liking an item of food that you haven't
tried, because it looks disgusting on your plate. If you eat some you
might like it, or not, but there are probably all kinds of other
things that contain the same nutrition. These guys are like a parent
telling a child that they have to eat their brocolli. But they aren't
my parents and I don't like brocolli, or CW. I take vitamins, and work
phone.

Slight difference, Alun. Nobody's forcing anybody to learn code. There
exists a no-code Technician license for those who do not wish to have
to pass the 5-wpm code exam.

73 de Bert
WA2SI

Not really true.

Very true, Alun...very true.

No HF privileges with that licence, as we all know.

As with most things in life, increased *privileges* requires increased
effort. The ARS is but a microsm or society as a whole. Despite the efforts
of some to reduce it to "just a hobby" status, the values and principles we
learn in our "avocations" will likely carry over into the other aspects of
our lives. Many here were first licensed as children or young adults, that's
no accident.

The kids of today are referred to as the Nintendo generation, kinda hard to
compete with. However, in our quest to gain quantity, we appear to be
courting a slightly older prospective ham...products of the newer "I want it
now" society. So what can we do, villify the "speed bump" of our licensing
structure in an effort to remove any "barriers." I kinda liken it to kids
that are graduating HS with a 5th, 6th, or 7th grade reading level. Gee,
how'd they get through? Check out the recent regents debacle. Not enough
kids pass, it must be to hard...so we'll throw 'em a curve. See the cycle
there. Had someone had the courage to NOT throw some of these kids their
earlier curves in the first place, their Regents scores would be higher.

What does this have to do with amateur radio? Human nature. What we learn to
do as we practice our avocation early in life, we tend to apply to other
aspects later in life. Still believe this is about a 5-wpm Morse code test?

Why must we reduce our beloved hobby/service to the lowest commen
denominator?

73 de Bert
WA2SI