N2EY wrote:

In article , "Harold Burton"
writes:


"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...



Where did society get the mistaken impression that sex is bad, but
violence is OK?


Nuns in Catholic grammar school routinely used violence on the kids, but
would
sure be upset about anything vaguely about sex....


Is that really what we want to teach our children?


I wouldn't want to subject kids to the crap I had to endure in said
school.


When you get right down to it, except for a few shameful and widely
publicized exceptions, todays kids suffer from too little rather than too
much physical punishment.


I disagree! Beating children simply means the beater can't think of
a better way to deal with the kid.

It also teaches the kid at a very primeval level that violence is a
legitimate method of getting what you want from others.

And the argument is null anyway. If beating your kid worked, you would
only have to do it once or twice.

In fact, I was recently enlightened to the fact that (I hope this
doesn't invoke Godwin's law!) Saddam Hussein, Joseph Stalin, and Adolf
Hitler have one thing in common. They recieved regular beatings as children.


Worst form of abuse for todays kids is to let'em grow
up with no self control or discipline. That was true in earlier generations,
too.


I agree 100%, except that I'd call it "neglect" rather than "abuse". And in
some cases neglect is worse because it tells the kid he's not worth bothering
with.

And discipline doesn't have to be beatings! Sit a kid on the couch for a
couple hours with no entertainment, and they'll come around. Sounds
simple and a little stupid, but it works. I got "wailed" on occasion as
a kid, and while it hurt, once it was over, big deal. All it taught me
was it was a good idea to not get caught, and if I could delay the
punishment until the punisher cooled down, I wasn't as likely to get
hit. That last part is telling in itself.

Look at Bill Clinton and, for that matter, the younger days of our current
President.


Not just the younger days, either.


Sometimes they grow out of it and sometimes they don't.


Exactly!

And sometimes, despite getting beat, they still turn out bad. Kind of
makes you wonder what does work! ;^)

- Mike KB3EIA -