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Old March 6th 04, 01:19 AM
Mike Coslo
 
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Brian Kelly wrote:
(N2EY) wrote in message . com...

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message news:cCl1c.31439$hm4.7910



In the long run, those currently
cheap off shore labor markets will self adjust upwards.


Maybe. And if so, might they not find themselves in the same boat?



It's already happened.

Among others big-name Jap manufacturers like Sony, Honda, Toshiba,
etc. have been shoveling jobs into southeast Asia at a huge rate for
years and now they're moving into China at an astonishing rate too.
The Japanese unemployment rates are much worse than ours as a result.
It's even more of a kick in the butt for them because it's happening
in a society in which full employement has historically been a major
component of their culture.

Fifteen years ago moving manufacturing to Singapore was the hot
ticket. So everybody did. The singaporean economy skyrocketed, their
per capita wealth became the global model. Now the hot ticket is
getting the hell outta Singapore because manufacturing there costs too
much.


I don't know of any country that grew prosperous on a service economy
alone.



That's because there is no such thing as a "service economy", the term
and the concept are oxymorons. Economics 101: There are only three
ways a nation can generate wealth: (1) Dig valuable minerals out of
it's ground (2) Grow, catch or raise crops and critters (3) Enhance
the value of the outputs from (1) and (2) via manufacturing. Anything
else is just passing the same bucks around in circles until they peter
out. As exemplified by our balance of trade deficit.


Correct! (shudder) We cannot make money by sitting in a closet and
selling our hats to each other. While the person who is a "Hamburger
Manufacturer" sells his/her wares to the buying public for minimum wage
can do that, There has to be people that are doing something else that
makes more. They have to buy from the Hamburger manufacturer. While we
can expound on trickle down and all the other theories out there, if
everyone is in a low paying service job, there won't be much
discretionary cash floating around. therefore there won't be as much
sold, and there won't be a healthy economy.

A healthy economy in the model that we in the US are used to requires a
prosperous and large middle class. Somehow that has gone missing from
some folks.

- Mike KB3EIA -