Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Dee D. Flint wrote:

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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The only thing left is to examine the statement that Steve is
continuing to get his chops busted over:

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio,"

Strictly speaking, One is not necessarily a member of MARS by virtue of
having an amateur license.

However, if a person was a civilian, they might be hard pressed to be a
member unless they had such a license.

Certainly, the amateur radio operator receiving training in the proper
traffic handling is the purpose of MARS.

So where one might want Steve to add "a part of" between "is" and
"amateur", I would remind everyone that this was in the context of a
reply to our good Hans, who has been known to engage in a bit of
hyperbole his own good self.



Actually based on the material you quoted, Steve's statement, based on

the

rules of logic, is correct as it stands. However, one must keep in mind
that under the rules of logic, a statement that is true as written, is

not

necessarily true in the reverse direction. In this case, the statement
"MARS is amateur radio" does NOT imply that it is the only element of
amateur radio and does NOT imply anything about the characteristics and
activities of amateur radio. That is to say, one cannot legitimately

turn

the statement around to say that "amateur radio is MARS."

True enough - I was just noting that it might be a little more clear
if the words were added. i did know what he was saying from the get-go.

- Mike KB3EIA -



All this has been very interesting. And Lenny has it right, for a change.

Now for my two cents worth. I have been involved in MARS, all three
branches at one time or another, for nearly 40 years. This is as a
individual station, which required me to be a licensed amateur operator. Or
as a assigned operator at a military MARS station, both stateside and
overseas. Which did NOT REQUIRE I have a amateur license. But it made
being assigned to a MARS station more likely if you did.

I of course had a license, but those working for me did not. This was at
Hanau Germany, Frankfurt Germany and Ft. McClellan Al.

Yup, I noted in my original post that:

No doubt that on the Military side of things, there is a trained operator
or operators that may or may not be a Ham. I'm not certain of the details of
this, but these people are already trained in the protocols needed, so that
is just a part of their job. They are the connection point, as it were.

I would imagine that already being a Ham might help you get that job,
but there are no doubt plenty of trained operators in the service that
aren't Hams, and some of them are the connection points for the Hams.

- Mike KB3EIA -