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June 20th 04, 04:42 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,
(Steve da CAP Ace with too much carburetor heat) sputters and foams:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue". From the
archived lies of Leonard H. Anderson.

Nursie isn't touching the "morse code test issue" is she? :-)

Len, please don't ask what he's touching.

Nursie wanna fight, curse, send nastygrams. :-)

Count cadence, count!

Must be more of that "meaningful dialogue" nursie thinks she is
engaging in. :-)

"My boots are heavy, my chin strap's too tight..."

That was 29 years ago, senior.

That was 13 years ago, senior.

If you're going to parody Spanish, Lennie, you should at least spell it
correctly.

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie lost focus again, desperately trying to invent
another nastygram. :-)

I know it is difficult, but TRY to stay within a few light-years of
the topics in context.

Give him latinobonics, "senyor."

The DSN (Digital Switched Network) ...(SNIP)

Even more completely unrealted, off topic trivia from one who must hide
behind it.

The U.S. government doesn't have the DSN? tsk, tsk, tsk.

DSN works very well. The "government's own internet" as one in
government put it. I've communicated on it. [no license required]

....Battle Hiram of the Republic playing on the PA.

Try to get with the modern times. Reality is all around you.

Yes, it is.

Try to get out of the ham tunnel you inhabit.

Too bad you can't share in it, eh...?!?!

? "Share" in your small tunnel? Your little imagination?

I am well acquainted with life.

More like death and destruction from appearances. You wish ill on
all who oppose your opinions, even to the point of wishing them dead.

Nursie wanna destroy anything anyone say about opposite
opinions as if they are heretical or perverse.

Not a healthy mind indicator to any lay person.

Not healthy at all.

Nop, you're not. You are well acquainted with your PERCEPTION of it from
behind textbooks and CRTs.

...and behind radios. Actual radio communications.

Sunnuvagun, how about that?

Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!

Hi, hi.

Someone other than olde-tyme hammes using non-amateur radios
for communications! [who would have thought of it? :-) ]

Just be sure that most of them are not LE.

)

Reality exists beyond the tattered, dog-eared pages of old QST
issues and ARRL handbooks.

Yes, it does. I and others have pointed that out to you on numerous
occassions and invited you to come out and try it. You've declined. Too
much security in LennieLand.

"Security?" Well, yes, I am secure but not in the sense of document
security. :-)

Never heard of "DocSec."

Ah yes, nursie's reality is rated "top sacred" in classification. :-)

Hiram has spoken.

Fort Huachuca was okay in early spring but I've heard it is uncomfortable
in mid-summer, being in Arizona. Glad I wasn't there in mid-summer.

I HAVE been there in mid-summer...and late summer when it's actually
worse. On several occassions.

Of course you have. You've been everywhere that I've been. :-)

I've never been there. What are their licensing requirements?

It's all documented in this newsgroup. :-)

Best of luck - you're going to have to google everything up to provide
the Security Detail with "proof."

See "Cinderella Liberty."

Nursie has been to an HRO store "with buddies" even when it did
not exist in a location. :-)

Magical. Maybe he got mushroom.

Sandia Laboratories is different. But, I can't talk much about that
except that visit concerned things like SID.

Ahhhhhhhhhh.......I see.

Someone else suggests some "security" issues and you try to denigrate
them for it.

SID is an acronym for Seismic Intrusion Devices.

RCA Corporation made a bunch of them for the "McNamara Wall"
in Vietnam, circa 1973-1975. Neat little automatic devices
reporting back (unattended) by radio to a "Portatale" (familiar
name) receiver. Could sense footfalls and had internal sound
processing to differentiate between four-footed and two-footed
creatures. Did the two antennas for them, accurate pattern
measurements on the first model, redesign to a "whip" type
for the second model.

That design is rather outdated now but SIDs are still used by
the government. I really don't know how much information is
still classified. What I've reported is from the public-release
information from Defense Electronics magazine.

Would make a cool variant on a super-tough-to-find "fox hunt"
transmitter. :-) Transmitter stays silent until the stalker
comes close. Sort of "role reversal" of the traditional game.
It would make for very accurate "fox hunt" scoring, though. :-)

"The Hunt for Tight Chin Strap!"

You think you're promoting your "insiderness" and you wave it like a
flag.

Poor baby. Came all unglued for using an old acronym? :-(

tsk, tsk, tsk...all that "hostile action" stuff and never did any
Recon Marine intel patrolling?

Maybe he was a "box kicker."

No, not "rife." :-) If you are trying a larger vocabulary, try to get
something somewhat close to correct...and in context.

Yes...rife was correct and in context.

"Rife: (adj) 1. Widespread 2. Abounding (as with error)"

Only in nursieworld where anything not according to nursie is
"rife." :-)

1/2: Widespread Error.

You are trying to "poison the well" by singling out only specific
instances of what I've mentioned as to experiences and work over
the last 51+ years.

In other words, I hit the mark so close that you'll be dressing the
wounds
from the "collateral damage" for days.

tsk, tsk, tsk...only in nursie's unhealthy imagination, still living
in the "hostile action" battlezone. :-)

"Fire for Effect!"

Must be the post-traumatic stress disorder resulting from no
longer being issued a rifle to deal with "rife-ness."

"My boots are heavy, My mind is rife..."

Welp, he still got a handle on reality.

None of it has anything to do with Amateur Radio.

Radio is radio, regardless of the differentiation that mere human
regulation makers make of its differences.

Only in your mind, Lennie.

Hardly. :-) The FCC knows this, other nations' radio regulating
agencies know this, the rest of the radio world outside of olde-
tyme hum radio knows this, academic institutions teaching
physics knows this, etc., etc., etc.

Nursieworld is all by itself, "a dimension of sight and sound...
at the signpost up ahead...the Twilight Zone!" :-)

If that assertion was so true, you'd have no basis for your OTHER rants
that insist that Amateurs must spend thier time learning about "other" radio
services.

First, amateurs ought to know "thier" own radios...something
beyond the front panel controls.

Amateur radios work by the same physics as other radios!

Sunnuvagun! A revelation to nursieworld!

If "Radio is radio", your other assertions are baseless.

Nurise is "right" and everyone else is "wrong." :-)

Nursieworld still stuck in the Twilight Zone again. tsk, tsk.

The Pacific Stars & Stripes did not include a nice photo I made
of the MARS antenna newly installed at Hardy Barracks in
1955.

And they didn't use the pictures I had of the Loch Ness monster either,
Lennie.

Nursie did an interview with Stars & Stripes?

Where, when, for the Sunday comics section?

[Stars & Stripes does have comic strips in case anyone wanted
to venture into nursieworld imagination]

"Dictating" what you said?

Absolutely. You are outraged that anyone dare confront your
ideas and fantasies with actual, real-life experiences. The same
with several others in here.

Why is it that all those "others" are focused on YOU, Lennie?

"All?" :-) A few of the regulars in here who are of the same ilk
as nursie, wanting to fight to the bitter end to preserve and
protect olde-tyme hamme radio and manual telegraphy?

Wait for the next Sermon on the Antenna Mount...soon to be
preached by the good Rev.

Perhaps YOU are the one with the perception problems?

I haven't gotten the rose-colored glasses yet. Don't use any
nursieworld kaleidoscopes...only oscilloscopes. :-)

That's a rhetorical question, of course. With absolutely NO experience in
Amateur Radio, we know you have no informed, valid expereicen from which to
base your comments.

"Expereicen?" New word? From Newington?

Of course. Amateur radio is so vastly different from all other radio
that one must be licensed and experienced (and be tested in
manual telegraphy) to understand it. [according to nursie]

Nurise hasn't done jack in any other radio service, only amateur, so
that's her only basis. Oh wow, profound, that tunnel vision...

The dictatorial attitude is fairly common, done with heckling
and name-calling and general denigration in an effort to make
a poster stop writing. Weak intimidation. Works sometimes,
but is not a guarantee of suppressing truth and reality.

And therein lies the bane of your existence...

"Bane (n) 1. ruin, death, harm, or their cause 2. poison"

So far, nursie is back on using quaint expressions involving all
that death and destruction.

Must be all that post-traumatic stress disorder from military
life again...?

Still having a hard time wondering why your "superior intellect" can't
squash all those "lesser beings" with your infinite wisdom.....

"Squash?" I'm not fond of squash. It's okay as food, but tasteless.

A more proper word would be 'quash.' Two meanings -

"Quash (vt) from the Latin 'cassus' To set aside (in law use)

"Quash (vt) from the Latin 'quatere' To quell as in an uprising."

[dictionary quoting a part of public service offered pro bono...]

Too bad you can't objectively review what you just wrote against your
conduct over the last several years.

tsk, tsk, tsk...confused on the differences between "objective" and
"subjective?"

The dictionary is your friend. Get acquainted.

Remember only nursie's alternate personalities live in nursieworld.
It's all subjective in there...

No one in this forum has made any such assertion. Even those who
staunchly support Morse Code testing have advocated advancement in the
service.

...by more and more manual telegraphy use, praising its supposed
qualities, and generally getting into silly stuff about how it's so much
"better" than any other mode.

Note use of the word "service" again.

Hmmmmmm....The FCC uses it to describe Amateur Radio.

All throughout Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, the term
"service" is a regulatory word pertaining to a type and kind of radio
activity being regulated.

"Service" has many meanings (the dictionary IS your friend and
you really need one).

Amateur radio is no more of a military or national purpose
"service" than Citizens Band Radio Service (Part 95, Title 47 C.F.R.).

No one "enlists" in the amateur radio service although some
actually do feel compelled to treat it like some military service!

The Commissioners are not licensed Amateurs...Lord knows none of them
hold ANY form of licensure by the FCC.

YOU frequently point out the Commissioners status.

tsk, tsk, tsk...why are you stoutly maintaining that anyone "involved"
in amateur radio "must be licensed?" :-)

Are you NOW telling us that the language used by those very same
Commissioners is WRONG...?!?!

All throughout Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, the term
"service" is a regulatory word pertaining to a type and kind of radio
activity being regulated.

Military surrogate use. Desire to make amateur radio much
more than it is by trying to identify a hobby with military service.

That's YOUR schtick, Lennie.

? I've been a civilian for 44 years after receiving my honorable
discharge from the U.S. Army in 1960. [only one, honorable,
not typed in on any DD-214 which I received in 1956]

Tsk, tsk. Lost focus.

Nope. Never have.

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie keeps forgetting to take off the lens cap.

...and never loads any film. :-)

Nope...It's right on. You make all sorts of assinine assertions about
Amateur Radio in general and some Amateurs in particular, then can NEVER back
up your assertions.

You make assertions of fact.

I want you to validate them.

You never do. You CLAIM to be a "radio professional". You are not now
nor ever were anything of the kind.

Do you need those documents verified by a notary public and
hand-delivered by bonded courier? :-)

tsk, tsk, tsk...I've given my short-form resume in here along with
living radio amateur references...and nursie never did check them
out, only issuing spiteful, hated nastygrams. :-)

"Professional (adj) Engaged in some sport or specific
occupation for pay."

[the dictionary can be your friend but nursie seems to want to fight
with everyone...]

If you tried to pass off "credentials" like some hobbyist periodicals as
"profesional publishing", you'd be laughed out of the IEEE.

Haven't been since first joining IEEE in 1973. One of my sponsors
was Jim Hall, KD6JG. :-)

["sunnavagun" as the super chief is fond of saying...:-) ]

The "shrinking ham advertising" was due to a lack of support of
consumers.

No consumers = no advertising monies = defunct.

Corporate advertisers do not spend thier advertising monies where it is
not netting a reasonable return.

You are close, but you've failed Business Economics 101.

The "shrinking ham advertising" is due to a lack of SPENDING
for advertising by manufacturers and services in periodicals.

Advertising is basically the same regardless of the product or
service. It is a means to induce potential buyers of a particular
product or service.

Most periodicals in the USA exist solely on the basis of
advertising space sales income. When advertisers do not
purchase advertising space in periodicals, that periodical has
less revenue. [I hope you've understood that basic rule so
far...] Note this carefully: The purchase of advertising space
has little directly to do with "consumers." Some products and
services can continue with an absolute minimal amount of
advertising.

If "Ham Radio" had been the marvel of publishing accomplishment you'd
care
to have us beleive, it would still be actively published instead of being
polished and repackaged as a CD novelty.

HR existed for 22 years as an independent periodical, even
spun off "Ham Radio Horizons." It started up as an independent,
continued as an independent. No support was needed by any
membership organization budget such as QST.

HR was considered the prime technical periodical for amateur
radio by radio amateurs when it was in its 22 year span. That
was stated by many, many radio amateurs.

Even then I can't find a single example where any of your "work" was
original, nor can I find any example of where your "contributions" were
complimentary to the advancement of ANY radio communications discipline.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Having nursie as a critic is like having a blind
color coordinator for interior decoration. :-)

Try to differentiate between "compliment" and "complement."

In either use of either word, there is no professional historical
documentation that would indicate that Leonard H. Anderson did anything other
than sweep floors in ANY "aerospace" installation or facility.

tsk, tsk, tsk...personnel records of employees are not normally
found in "professional historical documentation." :-) Those can
be verified by personnel departments (now called "human
resources").

And as far as your "contributions" to Amateur Radio via your HR pieces, I
find no occassion where your work was footnooted, included or otherwise madse
part-and-parcel of any other paper or work.

"Footnoot?" "Madse?" :-)

And I did look. Closely.

Total bull**** by nursie. :-) :-) :-)

On the other hand, maybe a sign of an impending vision problem.

Having to look closely at written text may be an indication that an
eye examination is required, perhaps for corrective lenses. See
an opthalmologist or optometrist in addition to a mental therapist.

Here's the full sentence: "I am only 'bitterly resentful' of
pathological
liars who proactively seek to cause harm to Amateur Radio for no other
purpsoe than to sate his own ego".

You'll hate yourself in the morning. :-) [every morning]

You are a pathological liar, Lennie.

You can't tell or acknowledge the truth. Your lying is habitual. Even
when you DO quote or recite factual information, who can trust you?

Then how do you know anything I write is "factual" if everything
is a "lie?" :-)

Just another "meaningful discourse" nastygram from nursie.

And you are not a "long time radio amateur". Never were, and God
willing, never will be.

tsk, tsk, tsk...that's not the way to get a PR job with ARRL...:-)

Expose. As if it took any effort to do...

tsk, tsk, tsk...remember the lens cap is still on and you didn't
load any film... :-)

And if you didn't post such foolishness, I wouldn't have anything to
work with. HARDLY "obsessed".

Your obsession was just admitted. Seek help with that disorder.

Well, Lennie, I am neither "lay people", nor am I the "sicko" that you
insinuate.

I didn't "insinuate." I stated it directly. You are obsessed with
trying to fight with newsgroup communicators who don't agree
with you. You defy social convention in acting the sociopath to
all who don't share your viewpoints.

That's a sick attitude to anyone, with or without "credentials."

Get help.

LHA / WMD