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June 21st 04, 01:54 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,
(Putzcussionist of the Rock-head group Grateful Dood) writes:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...From
the
archived mistruths of an ex radio technician parading about as an
engineer,
Leonard H. Anderson.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. :-)

Nursie be here to just FIGHT anyone not thinking like nursie. :-)

Might makes right.

He "float like a bee, sting like a butterfly..." :-)

Was the SINCGARS family of radios ever mentioned? ...(SNIPPED)

There are a LOT of military radio systems and equipment NOT
mentioned
in
Amateur media...and byt eh same token most of those systems are NOT
mentions
in a great many professional journals, either...! ! ! ! !

Hmmm...General Dynamics as well as ITT make a quarter million
radio sets over a period of 15 years and it is "not" mentioned in
any professional journals?!?!?

I didn't say "ever", Your Wimpiness.

tsk, tsk, tsk. [lower-case comment as befits lower-case nursie]

"Sorry Hans, Military Communications Journals ARE NOT Amateur
Radio Journals."

Hi, hi.

Heh, nursie would be surprised at the number of hams in AFCEA
or in the Association of Old Crows (real professional association
for electronic warfare engineering type, named after a pair of
legendary Norse ravens who flew ahead looking for land).

Your point?

There's quite a bit of FREE information out there for anyone to
find out about military or government radio systems and
communications. Been there for a long time, even before the
Internet went public such as the SINCGARS.

Great.

Then all those Amateurs who ARE interested in military communications
DON'T have to depend on QST, et al to discuss them.

...and nursie thinks amateur radio is exclusive, different from all
other radio. :-)

Steve doesn't know what he thinks. One minute, just to disagree with
you he says one thing, another minute, just to disagree with Hans, he
says something else. Such as this little gem:

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Welp, he seems stuck on that one, refusing to budge an inch.

Once it sticks in the 16 working neurons of his, it's like mental
crazy glue. Next, he'll probably state "death before dishonor"
(of admitting a mistake).

Did nursie ever bother to check out other radio services (other
than the CBs he saw shrink-wrapped at Wal-Mart)?

But, but, but... He saw some radios in an EMS van, and he saw some
radios in a police car. But he most liked to run the siren and
blinking lights as they make him convulse.

So THAT's the reason?!? Sounds valid to me.

A QUARTER MILLION radio sets of one kind makes for some
future surplus market, doesn't it? [that's the most of any one
kind of radio system in government history...]

Sure it does. And "surplus" radio gear has NOT been the preferred
method
of getting on the air by Amateurs for TWO DECADES....Not when folks can
buy
brand new, under warranty equipment for under $200.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. For a nearly-fifty "olde-tyme" hamme nursie sure
doesn't know much about surplus. :-)

He's expert at wasting surplus bandwidth.

Agreed. :-)

If poor nursie is annoyed at not being spoon-fed enough info
through hum radio magazines, then he should not try to mean-
mouth those who know about such things. Tsk, tsk.

Perhaps if you HAD been reading those Amateur magazines you'd
understand
a
bit more about what you are talking about.

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie imagines others' worlds and doings instead
of finding out.

Interesting that a person who has written for amateur radio magazines
has never read one.

Len, you otta be ashamed.

I know, I know. I go sit in corner.

But you go right on ahead, Lennie...

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie getting on high horse again, forgetting which
end is head and which is tail. :-)

Even on a regular horse, he needs to mount the horse while standing on
a stump. Can't imagine him ever getting on a high horse.

Maybe he should stick with ponies.

Wouldn't matter. He still won't read DoD Directive 4650.2 (eff. 21 Nov 03)
or USN-USMC Communications Instruction NCP 8 (C).

Nursie hasn't been able to stop many, despite his shouting,
hollering, cursing, and threatening. :-)

He will never run me off, as he has tried so many times before.

Nursie no understand da Eengliss...

[which may explain not understanding 4650.2 or NCP 8 (C)...]

Actually, my words then, as they are now, are that what I did in the
Armed
Forces have nothing to do with Amateur Communications. Just like YOUR
"link"
with Amateur Radio, Lennie, those "happenings" only shared the theoretical
basics of radio wave generation and propagation.

tsk, tsk, tsk...translated, nursie never did any military communications
at all (except maybe to use the day room telephone). :-)

So that's what he was doing while assigned Bay Orderly. Typical.

Well, technically, the telephones in the military buildings
are government property or something like that. Since
telephones are communications instruments and, being
guvmint property, he DID "military communications!" :-)

That may be the line of reasoning that Rev. Jimmie Who
will present. Stay tuned.

Nursie was involved too much in those "hostile actions" in the
military. Must be the post-traumatic stress disorder thing showing
in his postings...

You never know what will set him off.

I know! Isn't it exciting? - yawn -

It's the application...not the physics...that separates you from the
rest
of us, Sir Scummy.

tsk, tsk, tsk...more "meaningful discourse" from nursie? :-)

You apply physics differently in amateur radio? Hmmm?

I don't, but others seem to.

You have to put yourself in nursie's frame of reference. In that,
he imagines that absolutely NO electron, field or wave will
operate at ham frequencies unless a person is absolutely
licensed, certified, framed, and hung on the wall as a federally-
tested servicemember. Not only that, below 30 MHz, the
licensed, certified, framed and hung person MUST test for
telegraphy. Absolute. No ifs or buts, not even in a butt can.

Those who disobey that are forever afloat on the charybdis,
or doomed to listen to the exhortations and general arm-
waving along with dissing and cussing in this newsgroup.

Sucks to be you.

Only when I use either of the two Hoover appliances here. :-)

Or the solder-sucker on the bench. :-)

The melting point of solder is well below the temper temperature
of nursie...easier to suck up melted solder than to put out the
fires of outraged, angry egos such as nursie's... :-)

He's like a phosphorous bomb. Lots of sparks and smoke.

I keep thinking "pink smoke grenade" used in signalling.

Pink to match the horror of reading profane words (oh,
heavens!) or thinking that mooning is displaying "male
nudity!" [purity and no profanity in telegraphy...ptui ]

Smoke grenades smell bad when all fired up...but don't
last long.

"Code," "test," and "nuts" are all 4-letter words.

I guess this must be all of what modern U.S. amateur radio is
about...a bunch of mad-as-hell extras berating all the "lower
classes." Nice hobby. For Huns and other barbarians...?

LHA / WMD

Len, they're not all that way.

You ARE right. Most hams are good folks in their right minds.
Unfortunately, any human grouping has some nutsos.

Apparently, all the ham nutsos gravitated to in here after arthur
and his ritis slowed down their dizzying high-speed fists!

But, like the Big Hun (the other one who can spell in Hunnish)
said, "being interested means being licensed" so therefore
anybody without an official, nicely-engraved-border (suitable
for framing) amateur license can possibly "show any interest"
in radio. Nobody belongs in the RF world without that official,
certified, government-approved ham license...and those aren't
"real" unless a telegraphy test has been passed. Those are
the words from On High.

One last thing...PCTAs have so little sense of humor that
everything is done in an oh-so-serious (!) manner, keeping
always on the alert, ready to diss and cuss any NCTA in
sight or hearing. [sort of the General Order #1 here]*

* those who never went to basic or boot forget it...

PCTA want WAR! NCTA just want to end the code test.

PCTA are righteous, they are strong, hear them roar!

Breep, breep...

LHA / WMD