Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/23/2004 2:40 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:
You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees. That's blatantly
obvious.
No. Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation
with great technological learning capabilities.
Except to a few, such as nursie.
I have enjoyed Amateur Radio since 1972, Lennie.
It has been a great tool, a source of recreation, and a social gathering
place.
And as of today, youa re still not a part of it, save for being a
sidelined scufflaw.
Nursie does NOT "represent" all or even a part of United States
amateur radio.
Sure I do...At least 1/675,000 part of it.
Which is 1/675,000 more than you are.
I dare say that judging by many of the other responses in this forum, than
some of my opinions are also held by others.
Google refers.
I DO antagonize those who have a compulsive disorder known
familiarly as "control freaks" who seek to dominate others by any
means possible. Those are simply wanna-be dictators.
There is only one "control freak" here, Lennie.
You see him in the mirror every morning.
Here's MY "purpose"...It's a proven fact that those who bark the
loudest
or longest are usually the one's who get the most attention.
Nursie just wanna FIGHT. Nursie FIGHT anyone who have opposite
opinions of nursie's.
Bark, bark, bark, little nursie.
Seems I'm the little doggie that got ahold of YOU, Lennie!
Sucks to be you.
There is nothing at all "discrediting" about showing FANTASIES
to be fantasies of the imagination.
The only fantasy in this forum, Lennie, is that you are a person of
respectable character, or that you are making some sort of "constructive"
participation in it.
Education in the radio arts is not accomplished by pretending that
amateur radio is some paramilitary service organization or that
memorizing the advertisements and radio reviews in QST is
"learning" what happens behind the front panels...or that amateur
radio "always comes to the rescue during emergencies when all
the other radio infrastructure 'fails.'"
You are the one with such fantasies, Lennie.
You are the one who makes denigrating comments about parallels between the
Armed Forces and Amateur Radio. And no one here has said "...amateur radio
'always comes to the rescue' ..."'
The FACTS are that Amateur Radio DOES "come to the rescue" in a great many
instances, and it CONTINUES to do so in the 21st Century, cellular and Internet
technology notwithsatnding.
As long as you deem it your "purpose" to do so, I will do MY best to
expose you for the antagonist and mistruthful putz that you are.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie back into name-calling mode, trying to "win"
newsgrope arguments by some kind of "show of force."
It's no "show of force".
It's the truth.
Amateur radio regulations were established by people, not gods
or chiefs of stuff of some paramilitary organization. Regulations,
standards and procedures all evolved, changed with time. That
will continue to change as time goes on. There is NO divine
purpose to stop change.
Yes, those regulations were established by "people"...
People who have a vested, practical experience in the radio service they
are a PART of...
It was true in 1912...it's true in 2004...
Except for you.
Go figure.
Change is opposed by those who managed to meet OLD
standards and procedures of long ago. They cannot, will not
adjust. They fear change. Change manifests insecurity for
them. Or, they are so ego-driven that they fantasize their
individual accomplishments as so mighty and noble that they
think of themselves as role-models for all.
A rant of monumental proportion, put to rest by any one who cares to
review any of the posts made by any of those persons you refer to as "PCTA's",
myself included.
You were offered SEVERAL apologies and offers to move on, but your
answers
were clearly designed to simply perpetuate an argument.
No. Not on record.
Yes, on record.
In Google and Deja before it...
Nursie has not admitted that either of his
statements about MARS being amateur radio are wrong, nor has
he/she ever admitted to reading any of the military documents
defining and explaining MARS...nor has nursie identified any
part of Title 47 C.F.R. defining MARS as a civilian radio service.
I have read many of those records, Lennie.
None of them dispute my assertion of No Amateur Radio = No MARS.
Recent posts by others here validate the activites of those
MARS-authorized Amateurs in federal communications exercises.
Nursie has never revealed the when and where of any claimed
military "hostile action" yet demands full and complete disclosure
of all others...for any claim. Nursie be a hypocrite.
So far, my unweillingness to disclose whena nd where I was involved in
hostile contact is your ONLY argument, Lennie.
So far, that means you are about 30-1 behind on unansweed questions.
Nursie continually insults others' private and professional lives
clearly designed to induce word FIGHTING and then tries to
say "others did it first!" Nursie be an insulter and hypocrite.
It's not an insult if it's true.
Nursie want to be center of attention. Ego drive. Uses all
palaver in here to divert from real debate he cannot handle, will
not handle if it is against his own precious opinions.
You have nothing to offer.
Nursie make imperious demand.
It was not a demand. It was an observation. So far, one you've not been
able to disprove.
Just the same, I was on the staff of Ham Radio magazine after
being an author-contributor.
Yes...you were...
A magazine that is now defunct due to a lack of readership and
circulation.
So much for your editorial and leadership skills, Lennie.
At the mention of that, nursie will go immediately into ATTACK
mode, all safeties off, insulting all the staff of HR for being a
"defunct" publication...even after 22 years of existance as a
self-sustaining independent periodical for radio amateurs.
I am not "attacking" the staff at HR, Lennie.
Just you.
I am sure Jim Fisk and the other folks were
Nursie will then change gears and say I cribbed all information
("cut and paste" in his words) and had "none of my own."
Nursie not understand any of the articles, too much intellect
for him, therefore author become "enemy of state" to be
destroyed (by any means possible). Poor nursie.
Poor Lennie.
There's no facts to substantiate any of your CLAIMS about them, either.
Nursie think amateur radio all about manual telegraphy or code
testing? Not so. Elimination of code test is my main concern.
That is happening. Very slowly but it is happening. First break
in mighty Amateur damn was in 1990.
Yep. And it happened WITHOUT Lennie. Sunnuvagun!
Small trickle of no-coders
entered ham radio in 1991, are now the largest class group in
U.S. amateur radio.
"Small"...?!?!
I already acknowledged the enabling directives of MARS.
And how was that done? Must have been by private courier or
other means "obscuring the information."
No blinder are those who will NOT see.....
If amateur radio goes away, MARS can remain. All that is
required of DoD is then to update Directive 4650.2.
Sure it can.
Just like there are Jim Crow laws on the books in many southern states.
And until the Department of Defense decides that MARS needs to be staffed
to a level that would make it operationally viable WITHOUT all those Amateur
Radio volunteers, my assertion that NO Amateur Radio = No MARS is accurate.
No. If anything nasty be said about me, it is because I keep on
opposing fantasies blabbered by nursie.
Anything that is said about you is in response to what YOU have said.
Afterall, this exchange wouldn't be possible without you, Lennie. You ARE
your own worse enemy.
MARS, without the thousands of volunteer Amateurs who man it, would not
be
able to carry out those duties those directives require. Period.
MARS has done well WITHOUT those volunteers in exercise
Grecian Firebolt 2002. They are still doing so in 2004.
Sunnuvagun! How about that?
Sunnuvagun...how about all the resports of MARS stations participating
being MOSTLY from "individual" stations...?!?!
You need to participate in forums other than this one, Lennie.
Only a major
manpower restructuring in the Armed Forces would allow it, and under present
circumstances, that is highly unlikely.
Okay, Chief of Stuff, explain THAT gem?
The U.S. military has a very large communications organization
that is done by military personnel. Doesn't involve MARS at all.
Does all the tactical and strategic communications for the military.
Very big. Army Signal Center is at Fort Gordon, GA.
Nice try for a change of tangent, Lennie.
We are not discussing operational military traffic, Lennie.
We are discussing MARS. Not ADA, AIR, WAR, SINCGARS, or equipment
nomenclature...Just the MARS program.
I'd suggest you try and stay focused, but you can't and keep an "edge" in
the arguments.
MARS can go away today and not impact any missions of the
U.S. military.
Yep....I never said anything else.
And I don't need to "intellectualize" anything.
You don't seem to be able to do that. All the readers see is you
personally insulting others who differ with your godlike opinions.
"Godlike"...?!?!
You are not an Amateur Radio licensee. You never have been.
You've made countless assertions and "observations" to and about Amateur
Radio, most of which have been easily rebuked by fact, and certainly NOT
substantiated by any fact from you.
(Shall we once again revisit YOUR assertions of "dishonesty" by ARRL
officials...?!?!)
Everyone with opposite opinions LIES!
Nope.
Nursie = nuts.
Still waiting on you to provide those documents that will demonstrate your
qualifications in mental health education or training, Lennie.
Until then...You're still a putz.
Steve, K4YZ