Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil
writes:
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:
Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/23/2004 12:13 AM Central Standard Time
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You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees. That's blatantly
obvious.
No. Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation
with great technological learning capabilities.
Aside from hearsay or SWLing, how would you know, Leonard?
Heil, you've done that schtick already. It doesn't apply. It
doesn't work. Give up on that ploy.
It isn't schtick and it is no ploy, Leonard.
If some kid, assuming that he is above the age which you believe should
be the minimum for amateur radio licensing, comes to you and says, "What
can you tell me about amateur radio, Mr. Anderson?", the best you'll be
able to do is tell him that you heard from a friend that amateur radio
is....
or that you read in a book that amateur radio is...
You're shucking and jiving, Leonard.
Dave K8MN
Interesting.
I think so.
I think so.
I once said that a prospective ham almost had to know a
ham to become a ham.
I don't recall that.
There's that famous Heil selective memory at work. Next thing you
know you'll forget all about those out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters.
Then you guys set upon me like the pack of wild
dogs that you are...
Which "you guys" would that be?
PCTA. Know any?
...telling me of acts of heroism...
Acts of heroism? I don't believe you.
Yup. And because they display bravery and heroism in the face of the
old-timey exams and examiners, all who wish to enter the Kingdom must
also face those same exams and examiners. But since those old-timey
exams and examiners have gone away, all the new hammies are just not
worthy. Common theme throughout R.R.A.P.
how you got the book
and read it and went down to the steely-eyed fcc examiner and became a
ham. No sir! No help from no one.
Novice exams weren't taken in front of any FCC examiner, much less a
stelly-eyed examiner.
Steely-eyed.
K8CFT wasn't steely-eyed at all. SK W8MN sparked
my interest in becoming a ham but he couldn't learn the theory for me
and I'd moved to a different town by the time I began practicing morse
to increase my speed.
So you knew hams prior to being licensed. That fits my story. So
what are you disagreeing with now?
So Len could tell the kid to get a book.
Oh, he wouldn't likely do that. He'd go into one of his Foghorn Lenhorn
pontifications.
Or he could drag out a box of out of band QSL cards...
Which according to your
comment above, a book just isn't going to give sufficient information
to be able to answer questions about amateur radio.
A book can provide information to an extent.
A book can provide everything needed to become an amateur.
No good golfer became one
by reading a book. No good fisherman became one by reading a book.
Would you like to add a few more non-radio related categories to your
list?
No good radio op became one by reading a book.
Now you wish to qualify your statement with the word, "good," and
change the subject matter from amateur radio operator to
undifferentiated radio operator.
You have substantially changed the subject matter. Previously, the
subject was a young, unlicensed person wanted to know about Amateur
Radio. Have it your way.
One can become licensed in amateur radio simply by reading a -single-
book and taking an exam. Unless you are saying that those PCTA's who
told me so are liars.
Practice and experience are the keys.
Of course, now that you've substantially changed the subject.
Len has neither.
Above you say, "No good radio op became one by reading a book." You
don't differentiate between amateur radio operators and military radio
operators. Using your changed subject matter, Len has plenty of book
reading, training, practice, and experience. I might add that he also
has formal education in the subject matter.
You guys play both ends against the middle, and now that you've worked
down to the middle, your arguments fail because they are
contradictory. Go argue with yourself. You, K8MN, are shucking and
jiving.
I'd say that they appear contradictory to you, "William", because you
don't fully understand them.
Of course. Heil knows all. He is the very definition of Omniscient.
And all others are ignorant.
"You don't need a former military weatherman to know which way the wind
blows"
Apparently, you do. I'd suggest you stop ****ing in the wind.
Best of Luck.