Cecil Moore wrote in message ...
Richard Clark wrote:
Mark's experience eclipses this nonsense of Flat Earth Socialist
rhetoric.

Mark hasn't tried a 130 foot dipole on 10m at the same
height as his vertical in the direction of one of the
four 11 dBi at 7 deg lobes. Even with a perfect ground,
his vertical tops out at about 5 dBi, a full s-unit
below the dipole's best lobes.

Actually, I have tried it on 10m and most other bands. "I do have 80m
dipoles". But no, the dipole never beat the 5/8 GP. I've also tried a
40m dipole.

Flat Earth thinking equates to asserting that a vertical
monopole will beat a +11 dBi beam (or lobe).

It's like when I was out camping using a ladder line fed 80m, 130 ft
dipole.
I tried it on ten. It was pathetic due to the overly high takeoff
angles. I'm talking terrible. We couldn't contact anyone, although we
could hear a few. Bad...And yes, when modeled, that antenna had the
same gain you claim with yours, being it was exactly the same. Lamest
10m antenna I ever used. My whip on the car beat it like a lost step
child. In any direction. Like I said, gain numbers don't always tell
it all. MK