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Old July 16th 04, 11:22 AM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 7/15/2004 8:41 PM Central Standard Time
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(Stevie
Stalker, Hamme Raddio Ethnic Cleanser with his Fleet Kit) writes:

Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From:
(Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
Date: 7/15/2004 10:16 AM Central Standard Time
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In article , Len Over 21

wrote:

AMATEUR radio long ago CEASED to be a "pool of experienced morse
operators" for any national need. The nation does NOT need morse
operators, haven't for a long time.

That's an intresting point. 9/11 showed the need still exists for
experienced radio operators who can communicate under pressure.
Morde code is no longer necessary, but a clear voice, understanding
a phonetic alphabet, etc is.


Geoffrey, you'll notice Lennie interjected "morse" operators, although

he
does take great liberties with trying to discredit Amatueur Radio at any
opportunity.


Poor Stalker, still deep in delusional psychosis thinking that all who
disagree with Him are "discrediting amateur radio"


You did take editorial liberty with the post to add your anti-Amateur
spin, Lennie.

No other radio service in the USA uses morse code for ANY
emergency communications, nor do they do that for primary
radio communications purposes. No Public Safety Radio group
needs any morse qualifications to do their work.


This is NOT any other radio group, Lennie.

It's not the Armed Forces.

It's not PLMRS.

It is not SINCGARS or 1950's Army message centers.

Additionally he was in error that stating that "Amateur radio long ago
ceased to be a "pool of experienced morse operators" for any national need."


No "error." REALITY.

Stevie Stalker LIES again, but doesn't understand he does. Tsk.

He confuses his fantasy with reality. Bad scene. He need mental
help.


And conce again we have a non-licensed...in this case mental healtcare
provider...rendering yet another unqualified opinion.

No fantasy.

Amateur Radio remains the most significant "pool" of "trained operators" in
the United States, save for the Armed Forces. That includes Morse Code trained
persons.

Indeed Amateur Radio is the ONLY pool of Morse capable radio operators
remaining, the very small contingent of military and SIGINT operators not
withstanding.


VERY small. The Military Intelligence Center at Fort Huachuca
trains signal intercept operators. A few of the MOSs in that school
learn International Morse Code from computer programs. Those same
trainees also learn to operate a variety of recorders to record those
intercepts for later analysis. Just one small facet of MI training.


Morse Code will continue for some time to be a necessary skill.

Thankfully some in the Armed Forces have been able to recognize that while
we've buried ourselves under burdonsome technology, some of our adversaries
have quietly gone about keeping things in the KISS mode...And THEY have done
thier best to make sure we can have at least some reserve pool of AD personnel
who can be called upon to intercept it.

On-off keying morse code is falling in the rest of the world. Eventually
even they (the U.S. military) will drop that training. They have the
recorders and the recorded intercepts if some idiot foreign force wants
to use morse...and thus be open to signals attack by just about
anyone.


Open to attack by just about anyone?

It's not the manual OOK that is important, Lennie...It's the message being
sent. The Germans used OOK from thier subs, and until we came into possession
of an Enigma machine and the requisite code books, their transmissions were
just as "secret" as they woul;d have been using any other mode today.

AJKKL CDPMQ GCMMN ADAZP DDSZX WTUPA ZPZQY

Now...if I transmit those code groups via manual Morse, PSK, encrypted
vocie satellite, etc, of what use are they without the code book?

And if I can send those code groups to my "agents" with a transmitter
hacked together with $50 worth of parts rather than a $3000 manpack that
requires an orbiting asset to realy it,

And as much as being able to pull "the weak ones" out is a plus,

ACCURACY
is more important...That's why contests ding you if you miscopy an exchange.


Those skills are collateral benefits to emergency communications...Lennie's
uninformed opinion and ranting to the contrary.


Poor delusional Stalker, still mixing up his hate-filled dystemper of a
fantasyland continuum with reality. Tsk. He needs mental help.


No, I don't.

What I need is to get YOU some help, Lennie.

If what Lennie is is being "pro", then I dare say we should take some
EXTRA pride in NOT being "pro" ! ! ! !


More delusional Stalker fantasyland hate.


Not hate, Lennie.

Pity.

There are NO Public Safety Radio Services now using morse code
in any form for public safety communications. None.


And this is NOT a Public Safety Radio Service, now is it?

THIS is YOUR "fantasyland", Lennie. You keep trying to make Amateur Radio
your puching bag for your own inadequacies and we won't go with the program.

So sorry for you.

Len Anderson has absolutely ZERO experience in emergency

communications,
save for what he cuts-and-pastes about CA's ACS system and MARS.


Untrue, but trying to convince a delusional psychotic with a gigantic
hate complex living in his fantasyland is a non-starter.

Poor Stalker needs mental therapy.


Not untrue.

By your own admission (unless you were lying about that too) you are not
involved in any emergency communications program except as an observer.

From your posts here it is pretty clear you that you are indeed NOT
involved in any program at any level.

No experience
as an Amateur operator, none in any capacity with any civil or federal

program.

Untrue. But Stalker will insist that I have none until the last psychotic
delusion is ripped from his hate-filled little mind...


Oh?

WHAT Amateur license HAVE you held, Lennie...?!?!

He is not a licensed Amateur, nor is he in any other program affilitated

with
emergency communications, MARS included.


"Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio!" Hi hi ho ho.

Department of Defense Directive 4650.2, effective November 2003
says otherwise.

Amateur licensee Stalker says MARS is amateur radio.

Just who is the LIE spreader there?


You, Leonard...You are.

Hint. It isn't DoD. :-)

I never thought I'd say that about myself, but unfortuntely it is true.
I've tried to get my speed back up to something reasonable and expect
that it would take an hour a day for at least a month.


In regards to emergency uses, Geoffrey, it's irrelevent. It's nice to
have, especially for health and welfare trafficing, but otherwise not
necessary.


RED ALERT! ALL HANDS TO BATTLE STATIONS!

REALITY BROKE OUT!


It's been here all along, Lennie.

But while you've been so anxious to take each and every opportunity to
naysay anything anyone has said that even remotely favors Amateur Radio, you
haven't been paying attention to what's being said.

There's a psychotic in this forum, Lennie...But it's not me.

People who work 9-5 5 days a week may actually be able to do it. I don't
(more like noon (or eariler) to 3am).


Sure you can! Just one or two QSO's a day will get your speed up in no
time, regadless of when you work! I work 7P to 7A three to five days a

week,
and I am able to KEEP my speed above 20WPM with little effort.


There ya go, Stalker. You just keep on beepin...and imagining
yourself a big fat Hero of the Homeland for beeping fast.

So long, Reality again. Hello fantasy!


If what you are is "reality", Lennie, then I would do well to stay in what
YOU call "fantasy"

Sucks to be you, Putz.

Steve, K4YZ