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July 16th 04, 11:02 PM

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

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(N2EY) writes:

In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

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(N2EY) writes:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Hams - old and new - didn't change the exam procedures. Neither did
ARRL, NCI, NCVEC or any other ham group. FCC did, because it saved
them resources.

We aren't going to a system other than multiple-choice
published-Q&A-pool exams in the foreseeable future. Just not gonna
happen.

ANd then there's the question of what knowledge should be expected from
applicants anyway. Does it really require more knowledge and skill to
operate on 14.167 vs 14.344?

More spectrum is simply the reward system in use. It was chosen in large
part
because it's easy to enforce.

Nonsense for the new millennium.

That's what you're giving us, Len!

Now, now Rev. Jim. You're off on an evangelical Sermon on the
Antenna Mount again!

Who is this "Rev. Jim" person you keep mentioing, Len?

Tsk. You see him every time you look into a mirror. :-)

You just didn't answer the question I posed about "enforcement
ease." Tsk. tsk. tsk.

Yes, I did, Len.

No, you did NOT.

Tell us how morse signals are "easier to enforce" than voice
signals. Try a few details of how that is done.

Why?

To establish your bona-fides. You've made a wild-hair statement
and its illogical.

Not very professional of you. Tsk.

The separate, elite morsemen-only portions of the ham bands were
put there by old morsemen who were able to influence League
lobbying.

Len, what are "morsemen"?

An elite band of beepers stuck in a time warp of yesteryear.

Amateurs, of course.

So all radio amateurs are morsemen?

Only the beeping bleeping amateurs are morsemen.

The rest of the radio world has given up morse code modes for any
primary communications. Most other radio services never even
considered it!

So you think radio amateurs should stop using Morse code?

No. The FCC should stop TESTING for morse code cognition.

And if you're talking about how the bands got carved up into Extra-only,
Advanced-and-Extra-only, and General-and-above subbands, that wasn't an
ARRL idea at all. It came from elsewhere.

What is this "easy to enforce" nonsense?

It's not nonsense at all, Len.

So...answer how it is "easy."

I'll explain it again.

If a ham tries to exceed license privileges by operating on frequencies not
licensed to that ham, all that has to be done is measure the operating
frequency and identify the source.

Riiiiight...and that lets the FCC know EXACTLY who is doing it
and where, right? :-)

Do you really think others are THAT dumb, Rev. Jim?

The FCC reads morse
easier than it can voice? [I don't think so] Can the FCC DF on
OOK-CW signals "easier" than voice signals? [I don't think so]

The easy to enforce *fact* is that it's simple to check the frequency of a
signal against the license class. It's not nearly so easy to verify things
like power level.

Oh, yeah, the Magick of Morse!

Applies to all modes.

Riiiiight..."real" hams ALWAYS identify honestly, never ever fib or
do nasty. :-)

All morsemen are superbly honest and without fault...would not
dream of falsifying anything, would they?

How could they?

BWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

When was the last time FCC had to do some enforcement on a ham using Morse
code?

1935? :-) :-) :-) :-)

Hello? Ever hear of audio recorders? Those have been around
since WW2. Really. More modern stuff than wire recorders
nowadays, old timer. Combine that with modern DF techniques
(no rotating loop antennas required) and modern data recorders
and ANY signal can be found out.

An audio recorder doesn't tell what radio frequency is being used.

The data sub-carrier signal will have it recorded. Telemetry
recorders carry all sorts of information...those can even record
the DF information from the DF equipment.

All of the morsemen's propaganda is just spin to keep their little
morse playground. No more, no less.

What are you talking about, Len?

YOUR spin on morse code. And the Belief System of the Church
of St. Hiram.

What *are* you talking about, Len?

Heresy. :-)

The only Morse-code-only segments of US amateur radio are the lowest 100
kHz
of 6 and 2 meters. Open to all hams except Novices.

WE weren't talking about "morse code only" stuff, Rev. Jim.

Who is "we", Len?

Me & you. You have lots of alternate personalities like your
butt-in buddy, the Stalker?

[got some bad peyote again? tsk]

Never touched the stuff. You sound like ol' Carlos, though.

Carlos who?

I guess you can't rise to the challenge, then. You're just here to spout
nonsense and abuse.

Your terms. :-)

Anything said against morse code is, in your terms, "nonsense and
abuse."

We readers all KNOW that. Quit stating the obvious.

What you want is for opposing opinions to simply shut up. You can't tolerate
anyone who disagrees with your cherished beliefs. Even worse for you is when
someone proves you are simply wrong about something.

Poor Jimmie. Writing while looking into a mirror again.

Another one working his way into a delusional psychosis...thinks a
different idea to his "factual beliefs" is heresy. Poor Jim.

How's the olde time mashine working these days?

LHA / WMD