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Old July 19th 04, 08:59 AM
D. Stussy
 
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline ...
From: "D. Stussy"
Date: 7/17/2004 8:45 PM Central Standard Time
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline ...


You've only demonstrated that you're PO'ed at Bill Pasternak.


...And if you knew how he, at best, twisted the truth, or at worst, outright
lied, then you wouldn't trust him either. The specific case I cite is of
historical record in this group. I was not personally involved, but do know
the parties who were - and the truth of their stories.


So far all I have seen is your side of this, and not much else. I do know
Bill...we're not exactly "old drinking buddies", but neither do I have any
reason to doubt HIS sincerity or honesty.


Here's why I doubt his honesty: Some years ago, he reported on a conflict
between a Los Angeles repeater that was put up on the frequency pair of 145.460
(output) and a Mexican repeater on the same pair. I witnessed him personally
talk to some Mexicans about this at a local amateur radio convention aboard the
Queen Mary. However, at no point did he even ATTEMPT to contact the owners of
the L.A. repeater (whom I personally know and still see one of them once per
month as he is a volunteer examiner in the same testing team as I am in). BP
reported in his ARN, making several statements about this situation that were
outright false. BTW, the trustee had a listed home telephone number that is
even today still in service (as the number to call about testing). As a true
news reporter, one is supposed to make an UNBIASED report, seeking out BOTH
sides of a dispute; he did not do that. It would be different if he sought out
one side of the conflict and that party declined to go "on the record" - but
such is not the case. Supposedly, BP also works for Fox News, so he should
know how to do proper journalism even if he isn't one of their reporters.

I can list several factual points that were incorrectly reported about this
incident, but I don't see the need. The list doesn't aid my point.

From that point onward, it is clear that he is a biased and untrustworty
reporter who is NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH. Combine that with the only
conclusion that can be made about the funding and expenditure of ARN and his
failure to disclose such when asked and required to by law - that he is putting
the majority of contributions into his own pocket, and you should get what I
reasonably conclude: That he is a lying weasel who is bilking the [amateur
radio] public out of their money by using a alleged non-profit as a front.

I could probably get more truthful information about amateur radio from "The
National Enquirer" than I could from Bill Pasternak.

If you want to make your point, why don't you either document your
concerns to the FCC or the IRS, since they are the two most likely agencies

to
have an official opinion on the matter...

Lastly, the federal tax codes allow for a percentage of "charitable
donations" to be used for administrative (eg: salaries) purposes. I've met
Bill Pasternak and I dare say he's sharp enough to have made sure that his
finances are TDC with the law.

Unless you can prove differently...?!?!? (My bet's on "PO'd

indignation"
more than valid complaint)


You don't have to tell me what the IRS allows - remember that I used to BE a
"revenuer." The only way for "newsline" to have expenses exceeding
$1k/month,
after comparing their operations to that of others like "RAIN" and "TWIAR" is
if BP is paying himself a salary that is at least 50% of that amount - much
more than what he is representing to the public. I haven't gotten around to
pulling his form 990 yet (via a request on form 4506-A), but we already know
what we're going to find there....


We "KNOW"....?!?!

No, "we" don't.

You've been whining about his posts here for over two years now Dieter and
I haven't seen a single thing that indicates that you've done anything BUT
whine about it.

Nor do I think it would be a wise idea on your part.

You will note that it's no secret that I have done a form 990 search on one
of
the local amateur repeater frequency coordination organizations a few years
ago, and upon finding no filings (yet a collection of "dues" from members),
asked the NFCC to decertify them. This was in addition to their failure to
even acknowledge coordination applications filed with them or act on any (any
action - acceptance, denial, or even receipt). That particular group has
since
become a bit "more responsible" to the public since then....

Be careful about what you suggest - you may get it.


Then all you will have done is proven that you were right and I was
wrong...the world will go on. I would say "Gee, Dieter, you were right". I
might even send you a gift certificate for dinner on me...

So far all I see is your personal dislike for Bill Pasternak.

However if he WERE investigated by the IRS, these archives could be used
to validate a personal vendetta by you against him...Since you seem to "know it
all" when it comes to IRS policies and procedures, I assume you ALSO know what
recourse Bill could have should it be proven that you tried to use the IRS as a
source of intimidation against him, don't you...?!?!


Of course: That's why WHEN the complaint against him goes in, it will be well
documented. There is no recourse against a well-founded complaint (even if it
should be proven wrong).

Additionally, there is no legitimate purpose for him to post his entire
transcript weekly. Those who want to read it will go to his website where it
exists and don't need it here. To post it here (instead of merely posting a
link to it when it is revised each week) is SPAM - and YOU KNOW IT.


It is NOT spam, Dieter.

The content IS relevent to Amateur Radio practice AND policies, therefore
is absolutely pertinent to this forum.


You forget that the newsgroup charter FORBIDS its posting. Periodic bulletins
require permission - and he has permission to post only on "rec.radio.info" and
"rec.radio.amateur.misc", not to "rec.radio.amateur.policy." Furthermore, he
KNOWS this because he is the one who sought permission to post to the other
groups in the first place. It is SPAM because is it a regular posting in
violation of group policy referring to a web site.

If you don't want to read it, skip over it. When I open my newsreader I
can see the thread title, and if it's obviously spam (the aforementioned "SEE
MY TEEN WIFE..." kinda crap), has anything to do with N0VFP, AB8MQ or
"Twistedhed", I simply mark ir "READ" and that's that.


There is alot of spam that is not easily traceable. This one, ARN, is. That's
why I have pursued it.

Good luck making your case. If I were asked to render an opinion on the
matter to a federal investigator, you know how I'd vote.


As one of those he has scammed, I bet.