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July 22nd 04, 12:25 PM

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
e.com...

Here's a plain, simple fact, Len: You don't know squat about Morse
Code. Sure, you can quote a lot of factoids but you don't know squat
about it in a practical sense.

I recall you discussing space exploration. Have you ever been in space?

Here's a plain, simple fact, Brian. Jimmie has never said anything
about working IN the space biz. He's never laid a hand on an SSME
or gotten his (gloved) hands inside a space package.

Who is "Jimmie"? How do you what that person has or has not done?

Does someone have to have "been in the space biz" in order to discuss space
exploration? Why?

Have *you* ever "been in space"?

And here's a fact for you: Anyone who pays US federal taxes funds the US space
program. And the US defense program. So *all* taxpayers have a right to talk
about those programs.

But nobody's taxes fund Amateur Radio programs. That's paid for by amateurs
themselves.

Here's another plain, simple fact: Jimmie loves being a guru in all
kinds of areas besides olde tyme hamme raddio yet his
"qualifications" in those areas weren't covered in the olde tyme
ham test.

You've never been a radio amateur, yet you claim to know all about what the
amateur radio rules should be. You've never had an amateur radio station but
you act like a guru of all things radio amateurs do, even passing judgement on
what skills are useful and which are useless. You've never talked about working
for the US State Department nor the US Coast Guard, yet your full of criticism
for those who have done radio communications for them.

You've never been a mental health care professional but you sure are quick to
diagnose other people's alleged "problems".

Anyone who doesn't like his OPINIONS are treated as
lesser beings, "always in error," and given a denigration treatment
as if they were unqualified for anything.

Well, you can't be talking about me.

You are doing a pretty good job of describing Len Anderson, though. Such as the
way you reacted to a US Coast Guard radio operator's description of his
experiences in your classic "sphincter" post. Or your behavior when confronted
with a different opinion.

What really tells the tale is how you act when one of your claimed facts is
proved to be incorrect.

What if Len's factoids are true?

Here's another plain, simple fact, unavoidable: Every other radio
service but amateur either never considered morse code in the first
place or dropped its use for communications.

That's pretty much true. So what? You've repeated that point many many times,
but never explained what significance it has to amateur radio regulations.

Tell us *why* that fact makes any difference to amateur radio. Tell us *why*
amateurs should copy what other radio services are doing.

And also note that other radio services *did* use Morse Code extensively in
their communications - and a lot more recently than the 1930s.

More "plain, simple facts" (gotta love that headmasterish tone!)

You sure seem to. You talk down to everyone...;-)

Way back before most of the folks in here existed I learned morse
to maybe about 8 WPM.

Really? Got any proof?

The minimum rate was then 13 WPM.

So it must have been before 1951. Why are you living in the past?

I
didn't keep up with it due to other activities (being a normal human
being of adolescent years),

Gee, Len, a lot of us managed to do other activities and were "normal human
being(s) of adolescent years". And yet we were also hams using and learning
Morse Code.

You seem to think that "a normal human being of adolescent years" couldn't do
that. ;-)

Perhaps that's why you advocate a 14 year age requirement for an amateur radio
license......

and it rather evaporated.

Maybe it never existed!

In either case, you don't know squat about Morse code *now*.

By the time
I was in military communications, I saw what the Big People did on
HF and all thought of morsemanship went out the window.

"Big People"? Who are they? Heck, I'm probably bigger than you ;-)

Also probably stronger, smarter, faster, younger, better looking....;-) ;-) ;-)
;-) ;-) ;-)

I guess the Navy, the Coast Guard, the State Department and the maritime radio
services of the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s and 1990s don't count as "Big
People" to you. Nor the other radio services using Morse Code.

And of course we radio amateurs must all be leprechauns...;-) Tell yer buddy
Vipul about that - he says we hams are "Big People".

Never had to use it after that and didn't bother to.

Like the person who drove only automatic-transmission cars since 1952. Or the
person who never learned to cook and simply ate at restaurants or heated up
prepackaged meals.

Are they any less true if it is Len quoting them?

Absolutely! :-)

It's the olde Exxtra Double Standard. They state opinions as "fact"
and everyone against those are "in error," "incorrect," "don't have the
'true facts'" or other bull**** arrogance.

ooooooooooohhh! Len's getting angry! Poor baby! ;-) ;-)

(actually, he's describing himself and projecting that behavior on other
unnamed people.

Getting tiresome with those
few irregulars. They need bran and fiber...and a few still need mental
therapy and counseling. shrug

You're the most "regular" person here, Len. All anyone has to do is look at
your "output"...;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)