Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 9/22/2004 7:42 AM Central Standard Time
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:
Jimmie chastise nursie? Har!
The castisement is a very gentle slap on the wrist with a wet noodle.
"Naughty boy, Steve, mustn't say such bad words!" will sum it up.
It is hard to control what Jim posts. It would be a lot easier if you
were the moderator.
I'm not the "moderator" in here. This is an open forum.
Problem is, a few do NOT want that...they want a cozy little chat
room filled only with their own kine. They are the ones polluting.
I couldn't agree more!
The problem here, Mike, is that on more than one occassion Lennie HAS
demanded certain actions (or cessation of actions) from various persons.
He didn't get his way, of course, but he does take liberties with the very
same "rules" he would impose on others...
Not quite. Like Moose, Elk, Eagles, Lions type of clubs, all full
of brave macho types bragging it up at the club bar.
Now that tells us much.
If you had been to one of those, then you do not need to be "told"
about it. It is self-evident. Merely observe. That's all that's
necessary.
A buncha guys, and sometimes gals. People put back a few. Some are
great folk, some are obnoxious. A microcosm of life. I have no interest
in that sort of thing, but it's harmless enough as long as they don't
drive off half-tanked.
If you haven't been to a fraternal order hall with bar, then think of a
conclave of PCTA self-described wire-pullers and add some alky.
Same thing.
Don't hate, man.
C'mon Mike...Don't expect miracles.
OBEY them. The PCTA extras RULE! Hi hi.
Since when? And what do they rule anyhow?
Since the PCTA first had their hobby-orgasm over a code key.
They think that all radio communications revolves around morse
code and morsemanship. It hasn't been so for decades, but
they are Believers and will not listen to reason.
But I'm PCTA and aren't anywhere close to that.
Protestations to the contrary, Mike, just about all of us in the "pro
code" camp have expressed and discussed other modes, activities and interests.
Lennie keeps dragging that old, tired rhetoric of his around and tries to
wave it like a tattered old battle flag.
Like MOST of his stuff, it's tired, dated and for the most part, not true.
But it makes him happy to wave it.
Governments (and all newsgroupies) should obey Them (the
PCTA that is) simply because the PCTA are.
that would be bad if these folk are oppressing you. But as the
(probably) most prolific poster here, how can that be?
If the PCTA feel it so necessary to make all ham radio newcomers
learn morse to get a license, they should petition the FCC to rename
the ARS to what suits them - Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society.
Does knowing Morse code eliminate other forms of communication,
including modern ones? Old technology and new technology can coexist
with each other.
Not in Lennie's world. Thank God it goes no farther than his own, sad and
beleagured mind.
That should end any "dispute." The PCTA get what they want.
The name is readjusted to what it had become in testing.
Amateur radio is just another hobby involving electronics. There are
dozens-plus hobbies involving electronics and that is where the
electronics-interested hobbyists have gone. Most of those non-ham
hobbyists don't give a damn about morse code or recreating some
"pioneer days" re-enactments through constantly re-living olden
days that were around before most hams of today were born.
I guess history must be bad, huh?
Of course it is.
UNLESS, of course, you are a one-tour-wonder Army radio mechanic from
1953.
Then the tale warrants retelling at every opportunity.
There's only a few PCTA extras in here. But, they are resolute
and quite uncivil in condemnation of all those who do not love,
honor and obey morsemanship. All readers have seen that.
I'm PCTA and an Extra. I respectfully disagree with that statement.
Not all readers have "seen that".
I, for one, have publically stated (and do so again here) that although I
support Morse code use AND testing, it's time is passing and it's time to move
on.
Of course Lennie ignores this (and similar comments from other posters of
similar thought) and goes right on with his assertions about how allegedly
reluctant any one is to discuss anything else.
Even more ironic is that when we DO discuss anything else, Lennie or Brian
do thier best to pull the thread into yet another "PCTA Extras Destroying The
Radio World" rant.
There's lots of folks who MIGHT have come in here and made their
opinions known on issues...but are hesitant to not wanting to be
called nasty names by those same PCTA extras. That's the
"rule" part...rule by intimidation, intimidation by any manner.
At least the NCTA and interested others don't call anyone names! ;^)
Uh huh.
Betchya I could sell you a bride in New York, too, Mike...?!?!
For most folks, that rule-by-intimidation isn't comfortable, isn't
open, certainly isn't conducive (in any way) to discussion...the
intimidation consists mostly of diss and cuss at non-morse folks,
zero discussion.
hmmm, I don't see it that way at all. Well, everyone is entitled to
their opinion.
The "diss and cuss" comes from being "dissed" and "cussed" by certain
non-Amateur aggitators. One in particular.
73
Steve, K4YZ