Mike Coslo wrote:
bb wrote:

""" What is the logic behind your answer?"""

Must my answer confrom to liberal logic?

As opposed to your logic? Is your logic conservative logic?

In most respects. I have voted for levy's for programs which help
addicted people.

As you seem to believe, character does count.


So, Michael, please name one liberal (or "democrat") organization

that
promotes character in boys and yound men?

Do the republicans own the Boy scouts?

That isn't the point.

The point is that at the Democratic National Convention, the Boy Scouts
were booed while performing a flag ceremony and reciting the Pledge of
Allegiance. It was televised.

I know lots of Democrats that support the Boy Scouts, and lots of
independents.

Wunnerful. I know lots of people, too! That is NOT THE ISSUE!

The issue is that republicans are considering puttin through
legislation that weakens ethics rules.

So stop them.

Why was the BSA booed at the """DNC Convention""" while they
brought
out the American Flad and recited the Pledge of Allegiance?

Why???

"""You take what SOME people who align themselves with the
Democrats do and apply that to the whole."""

ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!!! Every Democrat has to accept responsibility
for
that act.
Were they Mujahadeen???

And I take what happened at the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL
____CONVENTION 0___ to represent the Democratic PARTY!!!

If you don't like it, find a new party.

Ain't my party, Brian!

Ah, yes. An Independant. Why are the Indies always hitching rides on
that platform?

"""That is a losing game, as there are segments of Republicans that
are

similarly fringy."""

Oh, my. People that believe in God. Wonder if Jews beieve in God?
Wonder if Palistinians believe in God? Wonder if Methodists
believe in
God? Wonder if Rev Jim believes in God?

So all you have to do is to Believe in God, and whatever else you do
is
okay?

Huh???

You brought up "fringies." Right now that means the Christians. You
know, people who attend church. Declaring ones faith and attending
church somehow makes a person bad.

It's just so awful that there are still luddites that believe in
God.

NYT says "God is Dead!"

But we must have a Palestinian State because Allah wants it.

I wish you the very best of luck on that one, and I do hope that
you
succeed.


"""So it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are a Republican.
Good to
see where exactly you are coming from."""

WTF did that come from? Must be somekindof Al Franken spagmasm???
Wonder where Geneen Giraffala weighed in on that one???

It is what you are saying. I note that Republicans are considering
legislation to weaken the ethics rules, and you answer that Democrats

don't support the Boy Scouts, and that Republicans believe in God.

You never even addressed the original question.

So YES, you ARE saying that it is okay to be corrupt as long as you
are
Republican!

Absolutely not.

Anyhow, you failed to name a single liberal youth
organization
that promotes character. And I know why that is. It's so friggin
easy
to know why that is.

C'mon liberal Mike. Ask me why it's so easy to know that. C'mon,
ask
why!!!

HAH, Good one Brian. I am not liberal. I am independent, registered
and
otherwise. I take my political philosophy from what is out there, and

think about it, rather than just do what "my party" tells me to.

Wow! By declaring a party, the conservative voter need not even see
the ballot. They must vote the party line.

I hadn't known that. Thanks for a lesson in civics and the
rightiousness of being Independant.

FYI, having core values and beliefs doesn't bind you vote for poor
candidates, unless you are offered only poor candidates to vote for.
Many unfortunate voters find themselves voting for "the lesser of two
evils." As a result, many conservative voters stay home and the left
takes over.

So from your other postings, I can tell you that in some respects
you
are what to the left of my philosophy. You don't know what all my
positions are because they can't be looked up by party platform.

So whats it like being a liberal by comparison.

Sweet. Apparently I'm all things to all people. ;^)

I'm interested in all politicians being ethical, not just
Republicans.
Is that a bad thing? Is is a good idea? Might it be better to think
about it rather than respond by accusing me of not supporting the Boy

scouts, being a liberal, or that

Ethics is a good thing. Politics is something else.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike, I noticed that you failed to list any liberal organization
that
was pro character building.

Yeah, the Boy scouts.

Good answer. Hi!

I don't see anything about the Boy scouts being a republican or
conservative organization.

The organization teaches self reliance, personal achievement and
personal responsibility among other things. They constantly work on
civic projects which rely upon volunteerism and donations, not taxes
and more government workers.

The BSA doesn't have a welfare merit badge.

Oh, my! 2004 becoming 2005. My 10YO Cub Scouts/America son just
got
an Eddie Bauer 0 deg sleeping bag. And he earned his just
"readyman"
badge and knows the basics of first aid. Maybe someday he'll
hike-in
and save your liberal ass.

Brian, spare me the foaming at the mouth stuff.

It's just like the "Morse Code will someday save us all" froth.

Somehow I thought it just might ring a bell in here. Guess not, sorry
to have even tried.

If you want to believe
that the Boy scouts are the reason that it is okay for the
Republicans
to soften up the ethics rules. Then so be it, I'll accept that as
your
answer. I was in the Boy scouts, My son was in the Cub souts and Boy
Scouts. I occasionally make presentations to the local Boy Scouts as
part of their meetings or to get interest going for possible merit
badge
work. I have been asked and am considering being a merit badge
counseler.

I brought up the 1996 incident where the Democrats booed the BSA at
their national convention. I said nothing about the Republicans.

Why you continue with your charade that the BSA is giving the
Republicans a pass on ethics is beyond me.

I might suggest going back and reading the Scout oath and Scout law.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Thanks, I will.

On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country And
to obey the Scout law; To help other people at all times; To keep
myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.