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April 13th 05, 06:42 AM

From: on Apr 12, 8:00 pm

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From: N2EY on Apr 12, 4:20 pm
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Lest WE forget..."N2EY" NEVER served in ANY war in ANY military.

How do you know for sure, Len?

You don't know for sure, do you, Len?

Tsk. You aren't in the St. Louis database. :-)

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

This newsgroup is amateur radio policy, not WW2. :-)

Remember that WW2 ENDED BEFORE you were born.

Why is that of any significance? If anything, it is
more important that those of us who weren't alive then
keep the history alive.

...so, you want to keep U.S. amateur radio as a
living museum of morsemanship. Understand.
Understood before, still understand that. :-)

I live just up the hill from Valley Forge, where Washington's
army survived a terrible winter. Also down the pike from where
the Paoli Massacre took place.

That's nice. Been there, seen that. So, WHAT
does that have to do with amateur RADIO?

That war ended long before *you* were born, Len.

Absolutely...but, the American Revolutionary War
did NOT involve either morse code or radio.

Remember, this IS an amateur radio policy news-
group, not some teary-eyed emotional hangout for
those that NEVER served.

And, you've NEVER served in any military.

How do you know for sure?

The St. Louis database does NOT have you in it.

And what does it matter anyway?

Not to me, personally. But, remember, this isn't
the History Channel and you AIN'T a docent in it.

Yet you make this BIG THING about morse code
in a window display...

Is it wrong to mention an interesting architectural feature?

Morse code is NOW an "interesting architectural feature?"

So, you are now an amateur "architect?" :-)

Does it bother you, Len?

Only in that you are such a transparent hypocrite.

Here's a hint: The Canadian military forces used Morse Code in
WW2.

Wow! [...that's a BIG Ben Stein "wowwww...."]

could it be that you
just don't give a damn about WW2 and only want
to make a big emotional showing for morse?

Nope - not at all. I find the history of WW2 to be
very interesting. I think it's important to understand
that war, both how it got started and the aftermath, to
understand current history. And technology.

Tsk, tsk. Then you MUST understand that THIS venue
is NOT for "warfare" or the technology of warfare.

You should also realize that morse code has HAD its
day and is now obsolete for modern communications.
Obsolete for everyone but the retrograde self-
aggrandizement elitist PCTA extras who USE morse
skills to show how much "better" they are than all
other "radio operators." Tsk, tsk.

For example, the very first high-speed, general purpose,
digital electronic computer, ENIAC, was developed and built
right here in Philadelphia - in the basement of the building where I
went to EE school. I've actually seen and handled
pieces of it, read the original papers in the library there.

Poor baby, still BEHIND the times, reaching for glory
on someone ELSE's work. Look again. Collossus over in
the UK's Bletchley Park beat ENIAC in the time frame.
Not only that, John Atanasoff's little group over at
Ohio State was before BOTH of them. :-)

You really DON'T know your own industry's history well
and you are griping about others. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

It was built to compute artillery aiming tables for the US Army,
and was used for ten years at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds. There's
also an unconfirmed story that it was used for atom
bomb calculations.

Sounds like you've been irradiated to sterility of the
mind. LOTS of calculation places were busy doing
ordinance table calculations way back then. Bell Labs
had a RELAY calculator...actually three of them in one
of the first computer "networks" in NYC. Before ENIAC
was started. Tsk, tsk. Get WITH the history program!

Or let's talk about the lessons to be learned from the US Navy
Mark XIV submarine torpedo, and its problems.

Oh! You are now an Expert Extra on USN ordinance?

Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.

Perhaps the proximity fuse is more to your liking. Incredible
device, made with tubes originally meant for hearing aids.

Tsk, tsk. You had a "prox" go off on YOU, sweetums.

Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.

I could go on about the political and economic effects, but since this

is a radio newsgroup I thought I'd stick to electronic and
radio subjects.

Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.

If I did talk about any military service I had, you would
be certain to make fun of it. It's just what you do, Len.
So typical.

But...you did NOT serve...so HOW can you "talk about"
something that NEVER happened?

Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.

I haven't dissed Bill Sohl about his USN service.

Because he doesn't disagree with you about Morse Code testing in
amateur radio. In fact, he pretty much ignores you.

Bill hasn't been here much. That means he "ignored"
YOU, too! :-)

I haven't dissed Brian Burke about his USAF service.

Because he doesn't disagree with you about Morse Code testing in
amateur radio. In fact, he pretty much idolizes you.

Irrelevant for THIS thread, sweetums. :-)

It's only those who disagree with you about Morse Code testing
that get your disrespect, abuse, name calling, and general
jackass behavior.

Oooooooo! Big PCTA EXTRA tossing your weight around?

Hello? Does the "sign-off" word "PUTZ" mean anything
to you? :-)

Does Kolonel Klunk's "you never did any operating 24/7
in the military" mean anything to you? :-)

I HAVE dissed those that want to LIE about
their big heroic military "actions" such as
Stebie the wonder murine

There you go - calling names. So typical.

Ooooooo! Causing you "great pain and anguish" is it?

Poor baby...must be new to the Internet. :-)

about his famous
"seven hostile actions"

Do you know what they are?

Nope...the big hero sojer in da TN woods won't say!

Are you reading deprived and can't understand what
your pet buddy is saying about others?

Where *you* involved in any of them?

Now, HOW could I have been "in" them? My service
time was 1952 to 1960. Check with St. Louis archives
if you don't believe that. :-)

Is there any reason to doubt that Steve, K4YZ, was involved
if he says he was?

HUNDREDS OF DOUBTS! :-)

and his failure to
acknowledge that the DoD really does direct MARS.

I see. His mistake somehow justifies *your* behavior?

Just ONE of DOZENS of his "mistakes." :-)

Godwin invoked. You lose.

Do you go to the House of Godwin on Sundays?

Sorry, sweetums, I've WON but you can't ever admit it.

Why not use the person's name and callsign?

Why don't others? Tsk, tsk. You are an elitist PCTA
EXTRA double-standard bearer, Jimmie.

What difference would details make? Your behavior when
details are given doesn't change. In fact, you simply
use the details as a source of more insults.

Awwwww...nobody giving you all that "praise" you get
from your admiring neighbors about your "neat radio
setup" and how you can describe your radio in great
detail to show off for them? :-)

OTOH, Brian, N0IMD, refuses to give any details about
his claimed amateur radio operation from Somalia, but
that doesn't bother you a bit.

Why does that matter to YOU? :-)

Do you mean Dave, K8MN, who served in the US State Department
at a number of foreign posts as a communications officer?

WOW! TITLES!!! BIG, IMPORTANT!!!!!! :-)

His service to our country was much longer than your, Len, and
in many more foreign countries. I recall when he was transferred
to right around the same time the US Embassy in the country he was
transferring to was bombed. We didn't hear from him for weeks.
Luckily he was OK.

ONE "hostile action" that he was NOT in... :-)

Perhaps you have forgotten the US Coast Guard radio operator who
used to post here? You made fun of his service in that capacity,
in your now-famous "sphincter post".

Tsk, tsk, tsk...YOUR sphincter is way too compressed.

He's a "mathematics LECTURER" in Hawaii...like a TITLE
makes him sooooo expert, etc. He ALSO was a MAIL DROP
for ANOTHER extra, one who lived in Rhode Island and
wanted a Hawaii call sign. Tsk, tsk. Highly unethical.

Why?

I have NO idea why the Rhode Islander wanted a 6 call
from Hawaii...not to mention a half dozen or so "club
calls" there... :-)

All those infamous types
are pro-coders and YOU love morse code, so much
so that you think ham radio is all about morse-
manship...

Len - lest we forget - you're not a radio amateur.

How COULD you PCTA double-standard EXTRAs forget? :-)

You've never been a radio amateur.

Right. And, judging from the behavior of you PCTA
double-standard EXTRAs, the "role models" are pretty
damn poor.

Yet you see fit to tell all how amateur radio should be.

Ooooo..."Klunk's last gasp" (at arguments) invoked!

I'm wondering WHAT drives you retrograde PCTA double-
standard EXTRAs to so enforce the RETENTION of morse
code testing for U.S. amateur radio licensing. You
all get SO HOSTILE at ANYONE wanting to delete that
regulation! :-)

You're not and never have been part of the FCC, either.

Here's the heartbreaking NEWS for you: YOU are NOT.
Either. :-)

[are you out of a job? maybe I can get you on Kevin's
staff...help you out...]

and MUST connect morse code to some kind
of imaginary "gallantry in the service." :-)

All I did was mention a museum and some windows. That really
seems to bother you. Too bad - the fact is, the Canadian
armed forces used Morse Code in WW2. Deal with it, Len.

I DID, sweetums. :-) The miliaries (plural) DROPPED
morse code for communications purposes. They started
DROPPING its use when I was in the military. Morse has
been DEAD for years. [except in retrograde amateurism
where the PCTAs worship the dead...]

Tsk, tsk. Better contact the Department of the
Army of the United States and DEMAND my Good
Conduct medal be given up and sent back! :-)

I don't demand anything like that, Len.

Tsk. Feeling GUILTY about mouthing off to a vet?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Those "veterans" (at least one
with "seven hostile actions") have all been
about as disrespectful to me FIRST.

No, they haven't.

BULL****! You're starting to sound like Stevie the
wonder murine again...[but you LIKE him calling others
by names...that means you don't have to "lower"
yourself to do so...:-) ]

You apparently see any disagreement with your
cherished beliefs about Morse Code testing in amateur
radio as "disrespect", and then proceed in your
completely predictable manner.

Tsk, tsk. Apparently you have a READING disability,
sweetums. You just DON'T (or can't) see that morse-
manship is NOT the ultimate skill in amateurism.

They got
what is known as "return fire."

For saying good things about Morse Code, apparently.

No, for being total mirrors of the olde fahrts in
ham radio...the double-standard PCTA EXTRA elite
who think they are members of some imaginary
"service" to their country. Tsk, tsk.

You mean like somebody who tells us the same story,
over and over and over and over again,
about his service at a big radio facility 50+ years
ago?

Tsk. YOU didn't do such a thing, did you?

Do we detect "envy" in someone working high-power
HF in REAL 24/7 communications...BIG time...in a
professional manner?

Sure looks like it to me. And to others.

Then gets mad because people point out his
underestimation of distances, and mistakes about
Soviet aircraft deployment dates?

Nah. Soviet aircraft weren't my thing at the time.
Still aren't.

Thing is, I was THERE, sweetums. YOU were NOT.

You READ all about Soviet aircraft in a book, long
after the harm they could cause us was over.

Not to you. But, you've NOT served in the military.

How do you know for sure?

Stuff it, sweetums. I KNOW. You are NOT in the
military service archives. Of the United States of
America. Makes one wonder WHERE you "served" in the
military?

Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.

Do *you* think it's funny, Len? Why? Those whom you make
fun of don't seem to be amused.

Ooooooo! It just breaks my heart! [he said sarcastically]

TS, big shot. Calling all those NCTAs for "dumbed down"
because they don't care for morsemanship is NOT some
kind of funny business.

Is military service the only REAL service, Len? I guess
all those police officers, firefighters, EMTs, and other
uniformed people who go in harm's way don't count, do they?

Police DO count, sweetums. Are YOU a policeman?
Bad folk try to kill police...and police fire back.
Do YOU have the guts to do that?

How about the utility workers who keep the lights on and the water
flowing? Or the highway, airline, transit, railroad and maritime
workers who keep transportation running?

Don't forget the garbage collectors, the newspaper vendors
the factory workers, and the cafeteria servers...the butcher,
the baker, the candlestick makers...:-)

Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.

You want to do a thing on Human Resouces, you get on
Larry Roll. :-)

Couldn't get a dinner date with the Captain
because the King of the Katapults was already
booked on that aircraft carrier?

More name calling - so typical of you.

Wow! Must have really get you ****ed off to get turned
down! Bet you didn't get to shoot any bears either!

I served. YOU did NOT.

How does that give you the right to insult others' service?

WHO appointed YOU "god" in here to determine who is to
to what? Hummmm?

Howcomeforwhy YOU get to be critical as all get out about
MY working HF comms IN the military a half century ago?
Hummmm?

Oh! I know! The ARMY didn't bother using morse code or
morsemanship for the long-distance HF comms then! That
MUST make you all angry and frustrated. Poor guy.

You want to see more of what I did in ARMY service?

No. You've told us over and over and over again. That's enough.

WHO was it that used to quote (or rather misquote) a
baseball player's phrase, "It ain't braggin if ya done it."

I did it. You did NOT. You have been an amateur while
I've been a professional about as long as you've been
alive.

DEAL WITH THAT... :-]