wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Apr 12, 9:31 pm

about his famous
"seven hostile actions"

Do you know what they are? Where *you* involved in any of
them?

He doesn't have any idea what they were. It kills him.

NAH. It only shows what a snow-jobbing laid-off
murine does under the guise of a U.S. AMATEUR radio
extra callsign. Tosses brags like they were bagels.

Who's "snow-jobbing"...???

Who's "laid off"...???

How can one toss an intangible...???

To my knowledge, Steve has never stated that DOD does not direct
MARS.

His claim is that if there were no radio amateurs, there'd have been
no
MARS program. In that, he is correct.

Bull####.

There's the definitive, "professional" response.

The United States ARMY started MARS...but
under a different name before WW2. Tsk. Davie ought
to read up on the subject...lots of references.

It doesn't matter if it was started by the Hand of God himself,
Lennie.

No Radio Amateurs = No MARS...Army, Air Force, OR NAVMARCORPS.

MARS always was and remains a MILITARY radio system.
A small one, about as effective as having special
services put on shows and entertainment. Morale
boosting thing.

Your limited scope of experience and practice is showing, Lennie.

That's pretty much why I've left details out. As with Steve's
military
service, Len doesn't know what I did or where I did it and it kills
him.

No problem with me. If you ain't got the guts to
tell the details, you AIN'T done it. Simple as that.

As opposed to YOUR making up details, Lennie?

I am not as predisposed to being a braggart about my military
service. There's no need to. Guys who make a point of sticking the
minute details of what they allegedly did in the Armed Forces usually
prove out to be the rear area radio clerks, etc.

...and Len has invariably demeaned that service. He has always
known
more about my job that I did. Foreign service tours were dismissed
as
tropical backwaters, places of insignificance and Cashew capitals.

Awwwww...you doing a Rodney Dangerfield? Get no
"respect?"

Please specify there part wherein you feel Dave has misrepresented
YOUR representations of his duties, Lennie.

I say he's spot-on.

Don't leave out his attempts at insult by stating that my name never
appeared in any lists of embassy staff. That blew up in his face
when
I
produced a couple of urls in which I was listed. Len's response was
to
dismiss the lists as some sort of telephone directory.

Tsk. Sounds like you are bucking for an Intelligence Star.
Couldn't you get a sponsor at the NSA to award you one?

Dave produces evidence of his claims of service.

You produce excuses.

Because Len is all about Len. That isn't the important part though.
The important part is where Len's sphincter post speaks of what it
is
like to be in battle. Len was never in battle.

Only ONE very brief exchange of gunfire. Doesn't count
as a "battle," though.

Tripping and accidentally discharging your weapon is NOT an
"exchange of gunfire".

Big Hero Dave...tell us all YOUR "battle experience."

Please, Lennie...P L E A S E retell the tale of YOUR service under
the threat ot the Soviet Bear...And then again your emotional outburst
about how somone else doesn't know what it's like to be under incomming
artillery fire..as if YOU had been at Khe San or Chosin Resivoir! ! ! !

Len knows more about what others did than those involved.

Nope. But...I DO recognize a bull@@@@ artist from a
long distance. Davie be one of those...

No, he's not. But you sure do "bare the scars" of one.

Len knows more about the military.

I know enough to meet THIS level of homo saps.

How?

So far, other than reciting the hearldry of the one unit you were
in in 1953, you haven't gotten a single thing about anyone else's
service right yet!

Been IN the Army...

Yeah. When Dwight D Eisenhower was President.

....had lots of contact with Army
as a civilian after service time done.

Too bad you didn't learn anything about the Army after that.

Len knows more about communications.

Tsk. I know some about that. Been IN that as a
civilian.

Not very successful though. Muddled through to retirement. No
real accomplishments other than having had the good sense to invest
wisely for your leisure years...Of couse at least ONE of your
"employers" reports that you were rather leisurely WHILE you were in
their "employ".

Len knows more about radio operation.

Tsk. I know HOW they work and the protocols needed
in some radio services. You have a need of info on
those radio services, big honcho?

You know jack squat about "radio operation", Lennie.

You know a lot of theory...but squat about how they are used.

Len knows more about the U.S. Department of State.

I do? Oh, my, aren't you stepping off into denied
territory!

But it's true. You've tried to nip at Dave's heels for years but
still can't seem to land a good bite in there...

Due primarily to your lack of knowledge and experience in such
issues.

I've not found a single bit of fault in anything Dave has
commented on herein...However YOU ahve been caught with your britches
down on numerous occassions.

Whatever Len did at ADA more than a half century ago impacts amateur
radio not in the least.

Riiiiight old-timer. Ham radio NEVER operated on HF, did
it?

Neither did you, according to your MOS's, Lennie...Oh, I have no
doubt that in the process of performing your radio mechanic duties that
you caused some RF to eminate on HF, but you were NEVER an HF operator.

Len tells it because he wants to be sure that everyone knows of it.

You betcha!

Now if it were only true.....

How does it give him the right to insult those who never served?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Those with SUCH thin skin should NOT be
ANYWHERE on the Internet!!!

I love it...

Lennie wrapping himself in patriotic bunting...as he claims others
do...Of course when HE does it it's "OK".

Now you've done it, Jim. You've denigrated a veteran.

Jimmie (and Davie...and Stevie...and every other elitist
double-standard PCTA EXTRA) will, without doubt, insult
ANYONE they care to. It's in the fine print of their
ham privileges as super-dooper under-the-dashboard douche
bag guar-un-teed morsemanship EXTRA AMATEURS!!!!

There's a "douche bag" in this forum, Lennie, but he doesn't have
an Amateur Radio license of ANY class.

Steve, K4YZ