wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Fri,Apr 22 2005 2:34 pm

wrote:
From: "bb" on Thurs,Apr 21 2005 4:50 pm

K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

The planet, the candy bar, or MILITARY Affiliate Radio
System?

"Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio."

Poor Stevie still thinks that hams started it and
run it, too.

And here's yet ANOTHER lie that Leonard H. Anderson ahs to
account
for...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. The UNITED STATES ARMY said that THEY
started MARS. I just repeated it. No lie at all.

Yes, you have.

And you have lied when you have stated that I said Amateur Radio
operators started MARS. I am still waiting for you to produce the post
wherein you think I said otherwise.

Don't get too angry with those typos like "ahs."

Or is that some kind of TN accent?

I never said they (Amateurs) started it. You are welcome to
try
and locate the post wherein you insist I did.

You ARE going to say that at the end of your "reply."

Still waiting, Lennie...Of course "we" know it won't be coming
since it never happened...

I didn't say they "ran" it. You are welcome to try and locate
the
post wherein you insist I did.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...YOU said "MARS IS amateur radio."
Put that way, the only interpretation can be that
MARS is "all" about amateurs. It isn't.

No, that's not "the only interpretation". That's YOUR
interpretation...it was wrong today, it was wrong yesterday, and it
will be wrong tomorrow.

I DID say that without the Amateur Radio service, MARS would
not
exist. This still remains true to this day.

Untrue. MARS did NOT "begin" with amateurs but rather
the U.S. military. The ARMY to be exact.

It doesn't matter HOW it STARTED...It's what it is today.

MARS exists because the DoD says that MARS exists.
Each major branch of the U.S. military maintains
their own MARS headquarters. MARS continues to
function with or without any civilian volunteers.
That is referencible by documents outside of the
ARRL. [the ARRL does not run MARS]

DoD's enabling documents allows MARS to exist as long as it
doesn't put any significant drain on funds or manpower.

At present, more than 90% of all MARS membership is civilian
Amateur licensees.

I'm not "enobling" myself for having shown that I was a previous
MARS member, Lennie. Those are facts. It validates My knowledge
and
experience in MARS that substantiates my assertion that without
Amateur
Radio, MARS would cease to exist.

MARS was formed by a few members of the U.S. Army
prior to World War II...

Snip...

Yet another history lesson for you to duck behind does not change
current events, Lennie.

No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

You are welcome to list YOUR MARS callsigns, Lennie, and tell
us
all about YOUR experiences in the programs....

"Experience" is NOT a requirement.

Sure it is, Lennie...

You must have "EXPERIENCED" getting an Amateur license before you
can be an enrolled member.

Your cut-and-paste history lessons keep you busy, Lennie, but AS
USUAL, you don't have all the FACTS.

You have the callsigns and dates I was a member. You may
verify
my experiences at your leisure.

Irrelevant.

I always love it how YOU can say that actual, relevent experience
is IR-relevent, yet when anyone a day younger than you speaks up on any
historical item of radio, you nay-say it as false since we could not
have known...!

MARS existed before Stevie existed.

MARS existed before Lennie existed, too.

The difference is that Stevie has several YEARS of experience in
MARS. Lennie does not.

More, "I'll dodge behind this" stuff snipped.

As to "Mars," the planet...(SNIP)

Missing home?





Steve, K4YZ