From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 1 2005 5:42 am

wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Fri,Apr 29 2005 9:54 pm

I've never seen anyone ask about rear area Army radio stations
in
the 50's, Lennie, but you sure do let us know about it.

Someone has to do it...poor Stevie NEVER did anything
close to such HF communications...as an amateur or
anything else.

Neither did you, Lennie.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor Stebie...still envious AND
FRUSTRATED. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

You were a readio mechanic.

"Readio?" Reallio? :-)

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Primary MOS of Microwave Radio Relay
Operation and Maintenance Supervisor. Secondary MOS
of Fixed Station (transmitters) Radio Operation and
Maintenance Supervisor...and a few other little duties
such as Carrier Operation and Maintenance (not that
those Western Electric units had either drift or
failure). The VHF-UHF radio relay equipment operation
and maintenance fell under my primary MOS.

All official and everything...in my DD 214 and all the
records archived in St. Louis...not to mention posted
on Harold Hallikainen's website and also mentioned on
Walter Welkin's website for USAEUR post-WW2 Army
history. Hal is a ham, by the way. And, in that
vein, Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV, is not only still a ham
but was also there - in my Battalion at the same time
at the same station - doing the same thing I did on
another operating team. [sunnuvagun!]

Period. You were not a message
center clerk...You were not responsible for determining operating
frequencies, modes, etc.

Tsk, tsk. The Chief Signal Officer, Washington DC,
did that sort of deciding for ALL involved in ACAN -
STARCOM - DCS and still does for all the alphabet
soup organization evolvement that followed after the
1960s.

If the box broke, you fixed it.

...or sent it to the Depot. Depended on the "broke"
condition. Did you ever "fix" a TWO-TON HV
TRANSFORMER (cast iron case, lots of iron in the
core, much copper, etc., full of PCB liquid)? :-)

No sweat to the murine corpse...a murine could hold
it in one hand and still be able to sing about "shores
of tripoli." Lots of 40 KW MARS transmitters in the
the 1st Marine Air Wing, right? :-)

Well done, but that doesn't make
you a radio OPERATOR.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. You go argue with Chief of Signals
(new title invoked by previous general) in DC and
have the Army "revise" all those MOSs to conform to
the wishes of Stebie da Wundermarine.

In 24/7 COMMUNICATIONS we didn't PLAY at HF radio
like it was a hobby, some kind of recreation.
WE GOT THE MESSAGE THROUGH. That requires
OPERATION as well as maintenance. OPERATION
AT THE TIMES REQUIRED. MINIMUM DOWNTIME.
With every QSY a radio circuit was DOWN until the
new frequency was set, tuned, and checked by
Frequency Standards for carrier and shift. All
the while the messages routed through that circuit
were being stacked up, unable to be transmitted.
That was worse with the SSB circuits carrying 6
to 12 TTY channels simultaneously.


Stevie fails to get the point: A half century ago,
the MAJOR message load throughout the U.S. military
was by teleprinter, NOT morse code. Way higher than
90% of ALL message "traffic" in the military. A HALF
CENTURY AGO.

Sure I get your point, Lennie...Here's a few for you:

Tsk...I'm only giving you ONE finger. :-)

(1) This forum is about Amateur Radio in the 21st century...Not
Army communications in the 1950's.

TSK, TSK, TSK, NURSIE!

1. This forum is NOT for Stebie's experiences with
the Commanding General of the First Marine Air
Wing in NINETINE EIGHTY ONE!!! [24 years ago]

2. This forum is NOT for Stebie's BRAGS of mighty
murine service in 'SEVEN HOSTILE ACTIONS!'

3. This forum is NOT for Stebie's BRAGS of prowess
in SUTURING or about his "medical qualifications."

4. This forum is NOT for Stebie's continuing
refusal to admit that MARS is NOT "run by
amateurs." MARS is run by the MILITARY.

5. This forum is NOT about MARS at all, although
the ASSIGNED MARS frequencies are OUTSIDE
the ham bands. [sunnuvagun!]

(2) YOU are the only one arguing about Morse Code-vs-teleprinter
traffic, Lennie. The rest of us moved on YEARS ago.

BULL****. Don't you PCTAs give that song and dance.
You PCTAs can't dance and your singing voices are as
flat as the 1930's attempted revival of vaudeville.

You MIGHTY MACHO MORSEMEN just CANNOT admit that TTY
was already downsizing manual morse a half century
ago. Sucks to be retrograde recreators of ancient
times, doesn't it?

(3) You are still not licensed in nor have any practical
experience in AMATEUR RADIO communications.

TSK, TSK, TSK. I'm a PROFESSIONAL in radio, have been
since 1953. :-)

Maybe ANOTHER radio license...for hobby/recreational
fun and games - like amateur radio - would be nice in
retirement. shrug

But...if all you hard-ass anal-retentive retrogrades
have to engage in the Control Freak harrassment like
amateur DILL SERGEANTS trying to treat "lesser
classes" like maggot recruits...y'all can just shove
it up your collective asses. It's a wonder that
ANYONE bothers to get into modern ham radio with all
you wannabe Chiefs making your smoke signals of
mighty radio "operation."

You continue to make
significant errors on matters of Amateur policy AND practice.

BULL****. YOU do NOT set what is "right" and
what is "wrong."

OPINIONS are expressed in here and everyone's OPINION
is THEIRS, neither "right" nor "wrong." Except you
and a few other retrograde PCTAs HAVE to jump in with
ERROR! ERROR! on every OPINION contrary to yours.

And no matter HOW you "APPROXIMATE" the numbers, all you were was
a radio mechanic.

TSK, TSK, TSK. There goes the EX-marine mouthing off
again...trying to call the entire U.S. Army Signal Corps
"wrong." :-)

Stebie KNOWS ALL ABOUT MILITARY COMMUNICATIONS?!?!?

From WHAT experience? As a helo ground support
person at a landing field? Did the marines have
pigeon messaging (pigeons fly)? Tsk, the Army
gave that up right after WW One.

Sure, your efficiency in keeping the transmitters on
the air was important to the overall mission of ADA.

NO, no...THE ENTIRE MISSION OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY.

"ADA" did NOT have "a mission." The 8235th Army
Unit had a "mission." "ADA" was a callsign of the
radio facility...RUEP was the TTY identifier for
the Tokyo node within ACAN.

But YOU were NOT
responsible for sending a single one of those messages...

Not a one!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H
HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEEH...gasp, BWARHAH
ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Baby Stebie READ ALL THOSE MESSAGES TO PROVE THAT?

Tsk, tsk, tsk...messages were not the ONLY content
of Army Communications a half century ago OR now.
Stebie, from his VAST (well, half) EXPERIENCE in
24/7 military communications doesn't know **** from
order-wires. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

No problem, can't expect this Mighty Morseman to
understand a damn thing about HF communications
other than AMATEUR hobby/recreational radio of
one operator, one radio kind of thing.

Huge snip of Lennie's rationalization for having made a stupid
assertion and even more stupid tap dance around it...SNIPPED.

Tsk, tsk, tsk..."snipped" because little Stebie
doesn't have experience one on military communications
on HF, doesn't know the organization, doesn't know the
procedures, doesn't even know tap dancing...yet he tap
dances all the time in countless BRAGS of prowess.


But you have NEVER had experience IN "radio communications",
Lennie...THAT is by your OWN hand per your CV.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. STILL don't believe OR understand
what REAL communications is about, do you? All
you know is what you read in the AMATEUR radio
publications.

You have always been a black box technician...NEVER a radio
OPERATOR!

Tsk. Poor Stebie. Angry and frustrated...still
making the typos when furious (see following).

Oh...yes...You pushed a button once that caused a
transponder on the mood to beep back at you...Almost as exciting as
pusing the car door remote.

Tsk. I've never known any "transponder" to have
"moods."

That's just a rationalization of humans. Electrons,
fields, and waves obey their OWN laws and totally
ignore the wishes of humans...or aliens who make
their pledges "for the corps, God, and country"
(in that order).

"Just pushing a button?!?" Tsk, tsk. BC-610s
(the ones in the AN/GRC-26 huts) could NOT be
operated by simple "button pushing." :-) Not
even the clumsy T-195 having Collins Autotune and
and an automatic antenna tuner (USMC development
contract in 1953, operational in 1955) could be
operated by a simple "button push." :-)

I started in HF radio in the vacuum tube era.
The ONLY transmitter that came close to just
"pushing a button" was the Western Electric LD-T2,
a commercial SSB 4 KW PEP HF transmitter that
could "tune itself" to any of 10 preset frequencies
(minimizing down time on QSYs). But, poor Stebie
NEVER would have been allowed near the actual
presetting of 12 potentiometers per frequency or
of checking the distortion of the 12 KHz spectral
bandwidth of that commercial SSB.

On the otherhand, I have had over three DECADES of experience in
the very programs which YOU purport to be knowldegeable of.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H
HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEEH...gasp, BWARHAH
ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

The WEEKEND WARRIOR doing his thing in AMATEUR radio
and playing like he be Chief of Signals of the
Amateur Radio Corps!

Stebie, cut the bull****. I began in HF radio
before you were born. I've both OPERATED and
DESIGNED and BUILT (protoype) radios over MORE of
the EM spectrum than amateurs have been allowed
to in the 71 year life of the FCC.

Stebie did 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, for
"three decades" as an AMATEUR?!?!?

Guess Stebie was NOT in "the Corps" then...USMC
doesn't want HOBBYISTS defending the country...
USMC is a PROFESSIONAL military branch.

Guess Stebie was NOT in "nursing" earning his
"needles" in marvelous suture closures...nursing
is supposed to be professional, not amateur...but
Stebie allatime wanna link his "medicine" to
RADIO!!!

Rather than find out anything of
the various communications systems or organizations
he winds up doing PERSONAL INSULTS in lieu of
discussion on a SUBJECT.

Old dead horse dragged out and re-subjected to yet another
whipping.

Tsk. I've never called Stebie "a dead horse." The
BACK END of one, yes, but DEAD only in his mind and
ego. Tsk, tsk.

You are SO guilty of the same conduct, Lennie.

Poor baby. Can't take it, can you? Great big heroic
Gunnery Nurse just can't stand any opinion opposite
to his own?

Had you not STARTED
it, perhaps we'd be carrying on a different conversation today.

1. I didn't "start" anything but an opposition to
the morse code test for an AMATEUR radio license.

2. The resident retrograde PCTAs in here STARTED
all the snide bull**** about "needing" a code
test to be "qualified" to operate an HF radio.
[that's all archived...begin with KH2D]

3. I began and was QUALIFED to operate high-power HF
transmitters in 1953...haven't bothered much to
get AUTHORIZATION to do so as an amateur...even
though I've legally operated on HF (last year,
from a sailboat, SSB 20 W PEP) without ANY radio
license. Sunnuvagun!

4. ALL of radio - except for a minority who still
live by 1930s standards and practices in amateur
radio - has advanced since I began 52 years ago
and keeps on advancing. That minority still
thinks that morsemanship is an absolute necessity
to operate below 30 MHz...all newcomers gots to
do dat to "show dedication and committment to
the amateur service!!!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H
HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEEH...gasp, BWARHAH
ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

That's Robeson's
sickness demonstrated in here against all of his
opponents.

Untrue, but then you're not one to do well with facts.

Tsk, tsk, tsk!!! Google has the archives of Stebie's
SOCIOPATHIC (with overtones of psychosis) behavior
against ALL who oppose his opinions! Everyone in
here has seen it. The "projection" is evident to
anyone with a memory...projection of himself on others
when trying to blame them for the faults Stebie has.

Stebie tries very hard to make EVERY thread in this
newsgroup about HIM. Stebie gots too much time on
his hands...doesn't leave enough time for playing
with his radio set.

"If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and
has feathers like a duck, chances are very good that
it IS a duck!" So...Stebie snarls like a sociopath,
looks like a sociopath (scowls in every photo), has
the thin skin of a sociopath...chances are very good
Stebie IS Robeson is the role model of today's amateur
extra?

No more or no less than you are the role model of today's
electronics engineer.

Now, now, don't try for the sharp retort...you keep
breaking all that glass and you retorts don't hold
water. You kept saying (in addition to "PUTZ") that
I was "nothing but a bench technician and NEVER an
engineer!" [it's in Google archives several times]

Don't add HYPOCRITE to your faults. TRY for
consistency.

I do NOT try to be any "role model of an engineer."
I am one. Have been for a long time...since 1960
when I got my first design assignment at Micro-
Radionics, Inc. [that's OVER three decades :-)]
I've NOT behaved in your manner to others in
engineering, not even in Design Reviews (as both
a subject and as a reviewer). It is impossible
to be so ONE-SIDED and stubborn as you've shown
in these "discussions" and still hold a job. I've
held my jobs, never been fired or "told to leave."
I've attended many a night class in college-level,
college-credit courses while still holding my day
job...and never been told those college classes
were "useless" or that "I was stupid and had to
take them." Yes, I did NOT have the finances
to attend college full-time, all years at once
early in life, but that didn't stop me from
learning enough on my own to continue with DESIGN
engineering before the very late degree award.
I've never met any periodical editor in-person yet
have a 96% sell rate on all submitted manuscripts
and was ASKED to be an Associate Editor for HR.
Ham Radio magazine was in existance for 22 years
as an independent, income solely from advertising
yet Stebie expresses the opinion it was a "loser."

Tsk. Stebie runs to emotional extremes, thinks I
"have to be published in professional journals"
to "make my name." Actually, I have, but Stebie
doesn't read them. Doesn't stop Stebie from yet
more insults. I have written documents in public
view plus living witnesses as to what I've done,
but Stebie has only vague brags and "references"
such as "write the CG of 1st MAW" about his 1981
"assignment." Yeah, right, as if 24 years is a
normal Commanding General's tour of duty at ONE
assignment? :-)

Today's (and yesterday's) engineers all know that
electrons, fields, and waves obey physical laws,
not the whims of humankind. Yesterday's (and
even today) engineers looked/look to a future with
an advancement of the state of the radio and
electronics art. All of radio (except the minds
of retrograde worshippers of the amateur past)
has either abandoned morse code or never
considered it for new radio services. Retrogrades
see NOTHING wrong with freezing the past...THEY
made it and, by damn, every newbie MUST sweat and
work and "show dedication" like THEY did! Like
ham radio is NOT a hobby? :-)

The name of this newsgroup's game seems to be
junior high name-calling, posturing and
preening over "seven hostile actions" and other
wannabe stuff. [try for "HALO drop" one of the
classic pipe-dreams of Stebie] Makes it even
tougher for any newcomer to show interest in any
hobby radio when all these middle-school drop-
outs wanna be the Dill Instructor, closing the
main gate to all but "their kind." :-)