Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 09:59:04 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote:
What would you suggest?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest I do instead?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest I do instead?
Isn't that rather obvious?
Then what do you suggest I do?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest I do instead?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest I do?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What would you suggest?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest I do, Leo?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest I do differently, Leo?
Isn't that rather obvious?
And your suggestion is?
Isn't that rather obvious?
What do you suggest I do differently, Leo?
Isn't that rather obvious?
In a word: No.
It's not rather obvious, Leo.
Sorry to hear that, Jim. How simplified do you need things to be?
It's not about simplification, Leo. It's about clarity.
Why can't you just clearly and plainly state what you
suggest that I do?
I have - many, many times.
You just keep writing that I must decide. But
you do not state concrete actions that the
decision will produce.
You must decide.
Why?
What *do* you suggest? Just speak plainly rather than
answering a question with another question, or a zinger.
What's your suggestion?
The way I see it, you have two options:
1. Continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments.
2. Do not continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments.
OK so far.
Glad to hear it!
So far, so good.
Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who goad you
in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end of someone's strings....
That's your spin on it - does not address what actions you
suggest *I* take.
That is your current reality.
That's your soft-science psychobabble spin, then. ;-)
Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1
For you, maybe.
- it requires the
intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait,
and
considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond,
even when you know you are in the right.
You're begging the question, Leo.
This is your potential future reality.
So what do you suggest *I* do?
Decide!
Actions, Leo.
Owned or free.
That's your spin.
That's your opinion.
Fact.
Owned - or free.
You must decide.
Why?
The path you choose will be entirely up to you.
So there *is* a choice!
There is always a choice.
Odd to hear from someone who told me I could not stop
myself.
Yours to make if your are able to do so,
Ah - now there's a condition!
You must decide!
Why?
Choose wisely!
Wise by whose standards?
We'll all see the answer to that one soon enough - when you
decide!
How will you know what is decided?
How would such a choice be demonstrated in concrete, practical terms?
Hmmm - you read the two options, right? 
Just can't make yourself spell them out, I see.
What actions do you suggest?
Decide! Only you can make this decision - you're on your own
now.
You have not offered the requested information. Seems to me that
when you speak of "abuse" and "control" and "goading", you're
really talking about yourself, not Len.
Or perhaps you and he are one and the same.
Good luck!
Be seeing you.
73 de Jim, N2EY