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Old July 22nd 05, 06:34 PM
K4YZ
 
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an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
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Observations:

- Although the majority of individuals who commented on the 18
proposals supported code testing, FCC proposes to completely
eliminate it.


Amazing, isn't it?


why that is the way the system is set up

why are you amazed it is being followed


It's not being followed if the public says "A" and the government
does "B".

They ask for public opinion then say "We'll do what we want
anyway..."


they have to ask for it

so they do

you can't make listen to it


Sure you can.

gorw up and learn how the world works


Why don't you, Deviant Boy?

- There were a lot of ideas in the 18 proposals other than the code
test. FCC simply denied all suggestions for change *except* dumping
Element 1. Free upgrades for Advanceds and Novices? New entry level
classes? More HF bandspace/modes for Novices and Tech Pluses? "No" to
all of them.


They said it in 98...They want to reduce all administrative burden
to an absolute minimum...

The fewer regulations there are on the books, the less enforcement
they have to do. I am surprised they haven't tried to "outsource"
their enforcement duties.


I do hear rumous they have looked into that


Uh huh.

Rumors.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

- The changes of 2000 brought a lot of upgrades and some short-term
growth, but now the number of individuals with unexpired US ham
licenses is almost 10,000 below what it was in May of 2000. Nor has
there been any sort of "techno-revolution" from the reductions in code
testing.


Predictions:

- There will be a lot of debate and commentary. But in the end FCC will
just dump Element 1 and make no other changes.


I'm still holding out for 5WPM for Extra, but prudence says you're
right.


a few sign of light stevie


- There will be a lot of upgrades and a short-term peak in licenses.
But not long term growth.


There never has been, there never will be. Reducing testing,
either the number of written test or the 13/20WPM Code tests, has not
done a thing to move the service forward.


esp with attitudes like your it will be hard


It's not MY attitude that needs to be dealt with, Markie.

It's the attitudes of the people who keep making these assinine
assertions about how this change or that change is going to be the
salvation of the Amateur Radio service.

The FCC has said it so many times now they even believe thier own
rhetoric and repeat it in this NPRM.

- The HF/MF bands will not be overrun with more activity.


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....For a while there will be...All those new
"Generals" will plop down some bucks on HF stations, work some DX, then
go back to whining about how tough it is to get to Extra.


yea right


It happened with "Novice Enhancement"

It happened with the introduction of the NCT.

It happened with the last Restructuring round.

What makes Deviant Markie even the least bit doubtful that it
won't happen THIS time?

grow up and drink your sour grapes


What sour grapes?

It happened. Three times.

- There will not be a "revolution" in technology used by hams brought
by the new folks.


They've had their chance since 1991 to do that if they wanted.


if they wanted?


If they wanted, Markie.

W H E R E are all the "engineering types that the NCT was
supposed to bring into Amateur Radio?

what have you done to advance the radio in your time as a ham


A lot more than you, Markie. Starting with being an Elmer and a
VE. Add to that ARES, MARS, etc etc etc

I have tried to add a mode or band or something each year to my
operating

I have not made it (was just too busy moving and building) but I try

you just want to sit back and let "Them" carry the freight


There's that "carry the freight" line again.

Still not applicable, but at least you spelled "freight" right
this time.

- The focus will shift to a debate about widening the 'phone subbands
or even having no mode subbands at all.


As I was saying in another thread...!


been around as long as I have been likely longer


No doubt.

Steve, K4YZ