"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Let me see, doesn't our constitution indicate that gov't
ONLY has the powers given it by the consent of the
governed (the citizens of the United States)...

True, but read below.

I mean really, I think it does, and the FCC
can't claim any damn thing they like,

The FCC doesn't claim any damn thing they like.
The FCC has authority on regulation of radio.

apparently even claims bordering on the line of
being unconstitutional!

John,

The FCC has been given authority over all things that involve
radio via past congressional action. That congressional action
constituted the representative process whereby we citizens
OK'd FCC authority.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

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Leo wrote:
On 25 Jul 2005 08:59:17 -0700, wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Mike Coslo on Jul 22, 4:01 pm
wrote:
From: Michael Coslo on Fri 22 Jul 2005 13:37
Why are you sounding insecure? The FCC defines U.S. amateur
radio. You don't define U.S. amateur radio.
Insecure? So are the others who *know* how it is to be defined
also
insecure?

Tsk. Don't try that ploy. THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO
IN THE UNITED STATES. Period.

You folks all missed an important point.

We are told in no uncertain terms that

"THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO IN THE UNITED STATES. Period."

That is true.

It's true that we've been told

"THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO IN THE UNITED STATES. Period."

But that statement (taken as a whole) may not be true.

The definition and regulatory package ensures that
folks who participate in the hobby do not interfere with other users
of the spectrum (or each other), or utilize it for purposes that it is
not intended to be used for (such as for business purposes).

OK

But the same nonamateur also tells us that amateur radio

"is a HOBBY".

Yet the word "HOBBY" or "hobby" does not appear anywhere in Part 97.
The FCC
doesn't use that word at all in connection with the definition of
the Amateur Radio Service.

So the FCC, who define amateur radio in the United States, don't use
the
word "hobby" in their definition. Yet we are told that amateur radio
*is* a hobby.

Do you see the contradiction?

Looks like someone doesn't know what he's talking about.....

Must be a common mistake - looks like the ARRL missed that one
too....quote:

"Here's your invitation to a friendly, high-tech hobby that's got
something fun for everyone! You can become an Amateur Radio
operator....."

http://www.arrl.org/hamradio.html

Hmmm - you'd think they'd know what it is - wouldn't you?

Sure - which means that one of the statements must not be true.

Note that ARRL does not state:

"THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO IN THE UNITED STATES. Period."

The contradiction comes from the idea that the FCC and *only*
the FCC defines amateur radio in the USA - which is what the
"Period" means.

snip

To put it another way: "Objective reality doesn't care what you
believe"

That's for sure!

Yep.

Which is to say that, for some, Amateur Radio is a hobby. For others,
it's much more. For the FCC, it's a licensed radio service that is
regulated by Part 97.

In fact, Amateur Radio is all of those things and much more.


73 de Jim, N2EY