Len:

In this new "feels good generation" I suppose you are supposed to disguise all
dislikes and keep them a "state secret."

Frankly, I hail from a time when you were tested and knew your worth, from then
on you went about your business, independent of others expectations or demands.

Back then, it was considered poor form to not allow others their personal
opinions, beliefs and prejudices.

Since I made it though that time, I accepted that NOT all others could be
expected to "like" me, indeed, I have never found the occasion where another
mans' opinion either "makes me" or "breaks me." And, tools have been provided
to me by my creator (whether that creator hailed from a mud puddle or exists as
a GOD) and placed between my ears to allow me to realize all of this.

Now it seems, others expect to control the opinion one forms of them--the
future will see if they are successful or not... I think NOT!

John

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From: K0HB on Jul 29, 4:36 pm


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I think that regular readers are fully aware
of your personal dislike of Fred Maia.

I've never met the guy, so it'd be pretty far fetched to suggest have a
"personal dislike" for him.

I certainly, however, disagree with a lot of his philosophy.

In the CONTEXT of the subject, "personal dislike" in newsgroups
is to be expected...ACTING on such personal dislike in a puerile
juvenile middle-school manner instead of the subject matter is
an indication that the responder has no valid argument on the
SUBJECT.

As a manager, you should be aware that personal preferences in
personalities have NO validity for business purposes. Yes,
there should be a balance there in order to preserve a working
crew, to avoid an evacuation en masse (I've seen it happen) due
to overbearing management techniques. The purpose of business
is business. Similarly, discussion of regulations affecting
the ENTIRETY of citizens under an administration, should be
conducted in a venue concentrating on the SUBJECTS, not the
present form of juvenile very-personal insults and cat-calls
by those whose only interest is very, very personal desires.

Those looking for "hail fellow well met" type of ambience should
go straight to the nearest lodge hall and hang out. There
WILL ALWAYS be disagreement on subjects. Amateur radio is not
a military unit of national service, not a union, not a guild,
not a craft of professionals. It isn't even a fraternal order
of the local variety. There is NO "requirement" except in the
minds of too many that "all must think/do/perform in the SAME
manner" or be forever consigned to some mythical hell.

There IS a great variety in amateur radio, a personal recreation
spread over the entire country, not just at some imaginary
local lodge hall. The "rank" and "status" and "privilege"
put on various classes of federal license is largely an
artificiality applied by previous humans into codified law.

Same applies to you. My guess, from what I see here, is that you're a
humorous
guy, good conversationalist, and that we'd find much in common.

TOTALLY IRRELEVANT for the purposes of discussing anything in
regards to federal regulations affecting ALL citizens,
interested or not interested in taking up licensed amateur
radio. As I just said, if you NEED a local lodge hall
environment, go there and feel more comfortable with like-
minded individuals. All can think in the same line of
thought, feel secure in the company of "peers."

Evidenciary in here is that MOST of the posters NEED this
commonality, indeed thrive on it. Those who do not agree
with such common, like-minded thinking, are treated with the
basest sort of outright BIGOTRY not confined solely to race.

I really don't care one bit what YOU personally like or
dislike. Matters not to the SUBJECT which can affect each
and every citizen of the USA who might be interested in
amateur radio...regulations that would apply to ALL and
not the self-propelled few who insist in ham radio built
in THEIR image.

But having
never met you, I can't pretend a "personal like" or a "personal dislike" for
you. I certainly, however, disagree with much of the philosophy you express
here.

That is, again, totally irrelevant to the SUBJECT of federal
regulations which involve the totality of ALL citizens in
regards to radio matters. This venue is NOT a popularity
contest, of personalities who see themselves as "leaders"
(yet it is obvious that this is what they seek in here).
Those who have a NEED to control others, to be "leaders,"
can find sustenance in local fraternal orders by running for
office THERE. In HERE it is a discussion on ISSUES of
amateur radio policy...or that was the intention however else
its inhabitants have failed in carrying out the purpose.

On "philosophy" (of some imaginary grouping), that is a very
presonal inside-the-head construct, a complex matter that is
very NOT shared by all others except in gross generalities.

As I've often remarked, electrons fields and waves do NOT
obey any human desires, wishes, or fantasies. Those very
electrons, fields, and waves are the HEART of the entirety
of radio, the things that make it work. Magic and fantsay
do nothing in technology that obeys only physical laws. That
some HUMANS have codified laws in a certain manner does NOT
mean that such human laws affect the physical laws. Radio
itself does not work on the emotional state of federally-
authorized licensed (certificate suitable for framing)
radio operators.

Someone once wrote in here "gentlemen can disagree without
being disagreeable." Wonder who that was?

bit bit