Tom, 
 
Thanks for the information. 
 
I'll take a look at the coupler design in RFsim99. 
 
The RF voltage probe and amp are not for the output of the transmitter 
they are for "looking" at oscillators. I have a frequency counter that 
goes to 2.5GHz but need to buffer the oscillator so as not to load it 
down while probing. For lower frequency projects (VHF), I have a Tek 
300MHz scope but the probes interfere with the circuits when I try to 
"see" the waveform of the oscillator. 
 
Thanks. 
 
 If you have a directional coupler, you are most of the way to an SWR 
 meter... 
 
 Especially if you are willing to make directional couplers for specific 
 narrow bands (say 10% or 20% bandwidth), it's pretty easy to do.  If 
 you get the freeware "RFSim99" software, you'll find in it a tool to 
 design several different types of couplers.  One thing they don't make 
 clear is that the coupling for the microstrip and stripline versions is 
 for a structure 1/4 wave long.  The coupling decreases as the frequency 
 goes up or down from that length.  It's certainly useable at half the 
 design frequency, and in fact you can find articles on the web about 
 how the coupling varies with frequency, and for structures that give 
 broader bandwidth.  If you only care about ratios (e.g. for SWR 
 calculation), then the exact coupling doesn't matter anyway.  For your 
 application, at only 20mW, you'll want fairly high coupling.  20dB 
 coupling would give you 100mV out to a 50 ohm load, for 20mW in. 
 
 I've seen articles in "Wireless World" for amplified RF probes.  But a 
 simple diode detector probe feeding a high impedance voltmeter will be 
 a high impedance load to the circuit you are probing, so long as the 
 diode has low capacitance.  You should be able to find Schottky diodes 
 that have 0.5pF capacitance at very low junction reverse voltage, I 
 think, though they are likely to be pretty delicate.  (Don't zap them 
 with static!)  With a high-resolution DVM to monitor the output, or 
 with a DC preamp that has high input impedance and extremely low input 
 offset voltage (such as the Harris chopper-stabilized CMOS part), you 
 can see RF voltages down to below a millivolt fairly easily.  You need 
 to calibrate the amplitude response, however, and it drifts some with 
 temperature.  With a buffer amplifier, you could use one of the RF 
 power monitor ICs from vendors like Analog Devices or Linear Technology 
 and have more stable calibration, reading "linearly in dB".  An 
 advantage of diode detection is that it's very cheap, and you can 
 afford to put detectors on your directional coupler outputs and just 
 leave them there--plus they don't require power supplies.  That 20dB 
 coupler with diode detectors and high resolution metering would allow 
 you to still "see" the reverse-port coupled power down 40dB below 20mW 
 input with good diode detectors, and it's very unlikely you'll be able 
 to make the coupler with such good directionality anyway. 
 
 If you don't already have them, you should add "step attenuators" to 
 your list of equipment.  It can be useful for a lot of things.  You may 
 be able to pick up a pair of 1dB step and 10dB step attenuators from 
 some place like ebay, maybe even at a reasonable price. 
 
 Are you going to be making so many measurements that you need a SINAD 
 meter??  Do you have an RF generator with calibrated output? 
 
 Lessee...20mW at 50 ohms is just about 1 Vrms.  For that much power, 
 you need sensitive amplifiers and high impedances??  If you really do 
 need that for probing, you'll need an amplifier at the probe tip.  1pF 
 at 1GHz is about 160 ohms reactance.  But for that very reason, 1GHz 
 circuits are designed at low impedances, and you shouldn't need a 
 particularly high impedance to probe for frequencies, at least. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Tom 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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