Frankie of Silliland wrote:
On 17 Nov 2005 04:48:12 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in
. com:

Read back Frankie's assertion about uniforms NOT being issued
"...'free of charge', assigned duties or not..." Ask him/her to
validate that as correct or not.

I agree. Anyone who wants to know the truth should do just as you
suggest.

Ask the Recruiter how much he or she had to pay for his/her Dress
Blues when they were assigned the billet.

They pay the same price as any other Marine.

Under the circumstances I cited before? You're right.

They pay NOTHING. Not one thin dime.

Then ask them how much Marines are billed for their first seabag of
uniforms in boot camp. (Remember, Frankie said Marines are NOT issued
UNIFORMS free of charge, assigned duties or not...)

Judas Holy Roller Priest..... you didn't even go through boot camp!!!!
The very first day (when you are standing on the yellow footprints)
you are given a book of chits that are used to buy everything you
need, including your uniforms. The money that is spent from that book
of chits is deducted from your paycheck. My "chit book" started at
about $210, and there was about $30 left that was added to my check
when I left San Diego.

Not one dime was deducted from my pay for ANY uniform issue,
Frankie.

Not one dime.

And those "chits" you refer to were used for PERSONAL items such
as shaving cream, razors, deodorant (which you obvioulsy squandered)
writing paper, etc. No "pay" was issued until you graduated boot camp.
THAT was the money deducted from your pay, Silliboy.

NOT "uniform issues".

####, you weren't even a reservist. You are a complete Dud.

No, YOU are the dud, Frankie.

Ask him/her if Marines in Iraq were required to buy the desert
cammies.

Absolutely.

The same ones they are required to have in-theater along with
all sewn-on name tags, etc.

Yep. Still got mine with my name stamped on the back and a target
(flag) sewn on the sleeve from when I was on float with the 24th MAU.

(Remember, Frankie said UNIFORMS...Not any
one type or style...)

Yep. Cammies, alphas, charlies, dress blues..... you gotta pay for all
of them.

Nope. Not a dime...Oh, I guess we could reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally
stretch things and say that by virtue of my income taxes and that
portion appropriated to the defense budget, I "bought" my uniforms.
But then so did every other taxpayer in the United States, whether they
served in the Armed Forces or not.

Ask him/her if MY assertion about B-Billet assignments (Drill
Instructor, I&I duty, Eighth and I Street/HQMC, Embassy Duty, etc)
rating an issue of dress blues is true or not.

Ask away. Even ask the dudes at the rifle range if they have to buy
their own pith helmets -- they do.

Only if they want to keep one as a momento.

Otherwise they are issued: "organizational equipment" And that
"organizational equipment" has to be returned.

Youse guys up to it?

I hope so.

Obvioulsy not.

Or how about a letter addressed directly to HQMC? Surely you can
take the above suggestions and pare them into a letter that sounds as
if you're conducting some sort of research. Better yet, I think I'll
do that part. Then we can compare notes.

As long as you include headers. Doesn't matter tho, you won't be
posting your reply because it will conflict with your "truth".

Oh, there'll be no "headers", Frankie. This one can go by parcel
post with a real human being's signature on it. Any fifth grader with a
bit of "computer smarts" could dummy-up a fake e mail.

Brain...at this point you can just ease out if you want to and
I'll let you call it "even"...Like I said, it's not wise taking
"counsel" about USMC policy from a one-tour, twice court martialed,
self-proclaimed " ####bird PFC " idiot.

You weren't even in the Corps. Shut the #### up.

Well, THERE WE HAVE IT!

Frankie's finally got to the "just mow 'em over with profanity"
mode.

Sorry, PFC! You have been busted at your own game over and over
for the past few weeks.

This time with blood drawn. And the blood was yours.

I understand you that were caught up in the heat of the moment,
but I don't believe that even you're so foolish as to continue the
"argument" in the face of reliable, third party corroboration of my
"claims".

I wonder how Frankie will slither out from under THIS rock!

Steve "was an Active Duty SNCO-Marine" Robeson, K4YZ

I have never had to hide under any rock. But you do because you don't
even have a DD-214. Be careful, Dud -- there may be a rock headed your
way.

Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

So..we have your loss of patience in the form of profanity and now
a not-so-thinly-veilied threat of physical violence.

It took some patience of my own, but we've brought Frankie of
Silliland's ultimate silliness into the FULL light of day!

PS: If you're REALLY adventurous, you might even ask about the
"civilian" business suits/sports blazers issued to Marines in some
Embassies and/or other sensitive assignments as an "alternative
uniform". I am willing to bet Dave saw one or two of these guys/gals
over the years!

We can talk about embassy duty too, Dud. I spent quite a bit of time
at the US/UK embassy in Beirut. Wanna go there?

Why? Is that where your FIRST court martial occured?

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ