bad enough you have to hear this drivel on tv and in the papers from the liberal elite pantloads but here too?
"Peace in our time" comes to mind
mit

"Mark Oppat" wrote in message ...
| beerbarrel wrote...
| "I think we killed more than 20000 of those *******s....hopefully we
| will get even more."
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| wow, this swerved way off...from UPS service to taxes to the war....totally
| off topic, sorry, just went down this path I have to say my last...
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| *******s? most of the dead did nothing against us... ever. They just got
| in the way. You can be sure that their relatives want to hurt us, now!
| Why is it everyone else is an enemy until you meet them and realize they are
| human, just like us, they want to live and be prosperous. They have
| children, mothers, and fathers. A smaller group has taken up arms against
| us... and, for reasons you might agree with if you were there.
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| Religion teaches there is absolute good and absolute evil, and thats what W
| and the other nuts that lead us into this believe. Big trouble, there.
| Well, guess what. No person, no country, no movement, just like no radio,
| is absolutely good or bad. There are very good reasons some of those Iraqis
| are against us. If you were raised there you might understand that. But
| rather than fix that, we made it worse. REmember, this war has NOTHING to
| do with Al Queida, except they like that we are wasting our time while we
| weaken ourselves and disaster recovery efforts.
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| IF you could ask an insurgent why he's shooting, the # 1 answer is to
| protect his country from the invaiders, the "evil" USA. OK, that's not
| the smartest thought, but , thats what he believes. Hmm. If we werent
| there, the shooting would decrease. Yes, there will be some other war, now
| that we stirred the pot, but it has nothing to do with us. They gotta sort
| that out. No country is gonna be safe because of us.
|
| Hmmm. The "Coalition of the Willing? ... guess thats like putting up a
| sign that says "watch out for this sign".
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| Not to mention the wounded, suffering slowly with no medical facilities,
| no one to help. Starving because they cant work and because we have
| destroyed what little support systems there were. Imagine that in your own
| neighborhood. Just try. War is hell, just ask any soldier.
|
| You DO understand that the Iraqi citizens never plotted to attack the USA,
| and had NO connection to Al Quieda. Too bad W , and much of the USA hawk
| populus still doesnt understand this. There was a nutcase leader. IF we
| needed to remove him, we could have done that pretty surgically, and not
| shot up and bombed the whole country. Remember, Saddam's followers
| deserted after his fall. They were ready to sign up with the new president,
| or whoever pays their salary, but we botched that up and let massive looting
| break out.
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| When's the last time you heard W say "weapons of mass destruction"? Seems
| thats all he could say in 2002... kept at it. All the experts, and other
| national leaders, said, no. Well, Kim Jong Il sure has them.... hey,
| lets bomb him! Pre-emptive strike, right?
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| George Sr. knew these problems. At least he had some foreign experience.
| He tried to talk W out of it, like he did Cheney and Rummy way back when.
| Dad turns out to be a genius next to W.
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| Thats why our real enemies are succeeding. They know we will never take
| the time to understand our enemies. We like to shoot first and think later.
| That is why we will never "win" another war, including this mess.
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| Meanwhile, the extremists everywhere else are laughing in joy at our
| failure, and why we are going to suffer further attacks for many many years
| to come.
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| For how long Cheney and Rumsfeld were planning this, you'd think it was put
| together by some second grade art class.
|
| Think back to Vietnam.... what great positive change did we make in the
| world... while spending 50+ of our guys and how many $$$? "We defeated
| Communism!"
| Uh, I dont think so. It eventually defeated itself 20 years later.
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| Some wars are just, or at least have furthered our cause. WW2, we stopped a
| madman. He rose to power because of injust WW1 sanctions against Germany,
| but thats another story. Gulf war, we stopped a madman, and created
| another (Osama + Al Queida).
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| I'm done here. Too depressing...Back to our usual on topic discussions....
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| Mark Oppat
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