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December 18th 05, 08:50 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
From: Dee Flint on Dec 15, 3:21 pm

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
"K؈B" wrote in message
"Dee Flint" wrote

All amateurs
are required to know and adhere to the same rules regardless of license.

Ah, but DO they? :-)

When you get that "Extra right out of the box", perhaps you can become
an ARRL member and go about becoming an Official Observer.

That's not evident in here. :-)

That's because r.r.a.p. isn't amateur radio.

Tsk, anyone passing the Extra "right out of the box" will have
ALL the privileges, ALL the status, ALL the title as any other
Extra, experience or no.

It likely seems that way to you. You're working from the only data
available to you.

But anyone can choose to gain the same knowledge. They do not have to
wait until they are studying for a new license.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. YOu are contradicting OTHER extras in here who
have insisted that one MUST get an amateur radio license
BEFORE getting any commercial license!!!

You keep trotting this out but the only person to have written such a
thing is...*you*.

Plus every amateur is free to pursue improving their skills. The license is
a starting point not a stopping point.

Gosh...I thought it was a GRANT from the Commission to transmit
RF energy on the ham frequencies. Sort of like a hunting or
fishing license allows one to hunt or fish in designated areas.

Aren't hunters and fishermen free to pursue the improvement of their
skills, Len?

Aren't "radiosport" contests all about hunting for contact
areas and fishing fishing for radio contacts? :-)

Yes, they're sort of like that. :-)

Actually the place that I see the difference in operating skills is on the
VHF bands in the VHF contests. When I review my contacts in those contests,
the large majority of them are Extra class operators. They seem to be the
ones to have the skill necessary to put together and operate a station
suitable to make long distance VHF contacts and the skill to do so.

Wow! Someone should have TOLD the U.S. Army Signal Corps folks
at Evans Signal Laboratory in 1946 when they were the first to
bounce a radio signal off the moon!

How much power was used by the Army? How large was the antenna? Hams
are now doing moonbounce wherein one of the stations is using a modest
50 MHz yagi and 100w or so.

Yeah, they should have told the Signal Corps "how to do it" in
Korea in the 1950s when they set out all that VHF radio relay
equipment in the hills and valleys there.

Where WAS the ARRL when all that was going on? They didn't tell
the Signal Corps much of anything...

Where Worked All States? During WWII, the Signal Corps used the ARRL
Handbook, Leonard. I'll bet that chafes you to no end.

Dave K8MN