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[email protected] · September 23rd 06, 09:32 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
From: Paul W. Schleck on Fri, Sep 22 2006 4:09 pm
writes:
From: Paul W. Schleck on Thurs, Sep 21 2006 12:21 pm
writes:

I can't possibly control the actions of a licensed extra class
radio amateur (20 WPM code test kind), can I?

Heck, Len, you don't seem to be able to control your *own* actions
here...;-)

This newsgroup has been out of control for a long time.
Anyone can post anything, including someone who forges
your name ".

Gee, Len, you've posted here under at least seven different screen
names - probably more. Sometimes you don't identify yourself anywhere
in your posting. And you once denied posting here under a certain
screen name ("Averyfine" or "Averyfineman") but then were shown to have
been mistaken.

That's the reason that I recommend Total Dissolution of
this newsgroup. Elimination. For an indefinite period
of time.

Why? If what goes on here bothers you too much, just leave. There are
other forums.

I can't make sense of it, but I can't argue with it.

Then you would be a poor choice for moderator.

I think Paul W. Schleck would be a great choice for moderator, even
though I disagree with him on many amateur radio policy issues. K2UNK
and K2ASP would be excellent, too. There are lots more - most of whom
don't post here anymore.

I've had
experience as a BBS public board moderator for several
years.

BBS's are old technology, Len. Does anybody even use them anymore?

It takes "brass ones" to be polite to everyone
but its the only way to do effective moderation.

Len, you're not polite in here to anyone who disagrees with you.

You
CANNOT be a participant in ANY argumentative subject in
such an environment. That would be subjective bias.

That's simply not true.

All the moderator has to do is to point out when someone is beginning
to push the group rules too far. If that person persists, they're
banned from posting for a time.

Of course, that means things like name-calling would not be allowed.
Making fun of someone's gender, ethnicity, work experience or
education, religion, etc., would get people kicked out.

Such as what you want to do in here...

Seems to me that what Paul really wants is to discuss amateur radio
policy without all the shenanigans.

I acknowledge that we have problem users, trolls, etc. on this
newsgroup. I will consult, on an ongoing basis, with newsgroup
participants for *specific* recommendations for actions, such that I am
not contributing to this problem through my inaction.

As I said before this post and in this post, I recommend
Total Dissolution of this newsgroup. For an indefinite
time period. [can't get any more "specific" than that]

Why? If it's that bad, why are you here at all, Len? There are other
forums - but most of them are moderated.

This newsgroup does not serve its original purpose, that
of arguing the morse code test retention or elimination
in US amateur radio regulations.

It's also a forum for the discussion of other amateur radio policy
issues, such as the number of license classes, the written exams,
subband allocations, amateur radio license numbers, and much more. Most
of which is being lost in the noise now.

. It has become a sewer
of filthy outpourings from trolls, sociopaths, misfits,
some of whom are identifiable as having amateur radio
licenses...very few engaging in an approximation of
"debate." It is a travesty of its intended purpose.

Agreed!

If you need to ASK someone, look to the public, to those
who WILL inherit the future involving radio.

Who are "the public", Len? Why would they want radio for its own sake?
The appeal of amateur radio has always been to the few.

They will
outlive the rest of us.

Not all of them. "The public" keeps getting older and older....

btw, it was *you* (Leaonard H. Anderson) who suggested in official
comments to FCC that there be an age requirement for all classes of
amateur radio license. You specifically requested that the FCC keep
anyone under the age of 14 years out of amateur radio. You wanted to
ban some of the very people who would inherit the future involving
radio.

Will those of the near-future
look on US amateur radio as a quaint anachronism of
ancient times if it is frozen in place? I am willing
to bet they will but I'm hopeful to be proven wrong
on that statement. Only time will tell...

We do know this: Lowering the code and written test requirements back
in 2000 has not brought about sustained growth in the number of
licensed US radio amateurs. The number of amateurs today is more than
15,000 lower than it was in 2000.

And on the subject of Mr. Gerritsen:

The Morse Code test did not "filter" him out of amateur radio. He never
took one!

Jim, N2EY