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Dave Heil · September 26th 06, 02:52 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
From: Paul W. Schleck on Mon, Sep 25 2006 7:28 am

writes:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: Paul W. Schleck on Fri, Sep 22 2006 4:09 pm

The Institute for Electrical and Electronic Engineers is a
PROFESSIONAL Association.
If you have "confusion" about it, feel free to write them at:
IEEE
445 Hoes Lane
Box 1331
Piscataway, NJ 08855-1331
USA
If your haughtiness has a problem with my PROFESSIONAL
membership, take it up with the IEEE directly. You can include
"questions" on NON-work "conduct" all you want.
So, Len, your personal morality makes a distinction between how you
treat people in professional vs. personal life.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Personal morality..."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought it was kind of funny too--the idea that you'd demonstrate some
personal morality.

Tsk, the Torquemadas are in a conclave now? :-) :-)

Too funny, really...but tragic in the obvious state of
mind of a future newsgroup moderator...and a possible
course of action of future newsgroup "moderation."

Here's a plain and simple fact: Heil, unable to control
hisself, searched and searched for a weapon of anti-morse
destruction and seized the IEEE Code of Conduct...saying
he "addressed it." Not fully, so I merely listed the
IEEE mailing address for his convenience.

I said I addressed the IEEE Code of Ethics? I could have sworn that I
said you had *not* addressed it despite your claim of doing so. I've
controlled myself very well, Len. The sheer length of your post and the
angst contained therein demonstrates that you aren't in control of yourself.

I didn't need to "seize the IEEE Code of Conduct". You post with an
IEEE address. You told us of your membership in the IEEE. The IEEE has
a Code of Ethics. You obviously do not behave in a manner outlined by
that code. Here I thought you were only against the Morse Code.

David Heil is perfectly free to communicate with the IEEE
and bring his CHARGES OF MISCONDUCT against me to the
attention of the Membership Committee of the IEEE, the
Ethics Committee, whatever IEEE official, other IEEE
members he wants to vent to. So are you. Go ahead.

I don't need a go ahead from you.

As I've said, as the IEEE says, it is a Professional
Association. It has no direct bearing on AMATEUR RADIO
other than some of its thousands of members no doubt
do professional work on designing, manufacturing, and
selling of amateur radio equipment.

Then why, pray tell, do you start posting with an IEEE address and
braying about your membership here? This isn't a PROFESSIONAL
newsgroup. You're quite right that the IEEE has no more direct bearing
on amateur radio than your repeated tales of how long you've held a
COMMERCIAL license.

The IEEE makes
available a forwarding alias for e-mail to members and
I use that free service, hence the "signature" I use.
Some have great difficulty with that "signature,"
demanding I either drop it or get an amateur radio
license and use that (as "official?"). Now that
"signature" (or "ID" or just an e-mail address) has
become a Cause Celebre' of yourself and someone who
has an obsession of villifying his newsgroup enemies?

Someone who has an obsession with villifying his newsgroup enemies?
That sounds like you! Are you demanding that you drop your IEEE sig?

Here's another plain and simple fact: There are dozens
of daily postings by anonymous individuals in THIS
newsgroup spewing hateful filth about others.

Oh, you've noticed, have you?

A simple
search of Google archives will turn up "responsible"
(Ha!) "names" such as "Not Cocksucker Lloyd" and "Billy
****tydrawers" yet THEY are NOT made a target of this
Inquisition into the "Morality" of their postings.

The hell they aren't. You aren't paying attention. The individual
posting as "Not Cocksucker Lloyd", "Billy ****tydrawers", "Markie Rapes
(whatever" and many others is, as I've frequently pointed out, noted
sociopath, scofflaw, mental case Roger L. Wiseman AB8MQ, formerly KC8JBO
of Glen Dale, West Virginia--right here in my county. Local law
enforcement personnel are quite aware of him and have had encounters
with him.

Why IS that? They do not have any identifiable
connection with amateur radio, but you seem to avoid
them in favor of direct (snide) "attacks" on certain
others such as myself.

Roger has an identifiable connection with amateur radio. He also
crossposts many of his responses, drawing in others. Pay attention.
His posts do not excuse your posts. After all, he is mentally ill. Are
you claiming a mental exemption?

That is hypocrisy in action,
demonstratable in things like the insinuation below:

In your personal,
non-professional life, you feel that it is acceptable
and defensible:

What I do in my "personal, non-professional life" is
none of your concern.

The behavior you exhibit here is certainly part of your "personal,
non-professional life", Leonard.

Neither you nor David Heil
can control that, modify it, or make judgements on
it leading to cessation of my rights to free speech
as a citizen of the USA and as a military veteran of
the USA.

At ease, Sarge.

1. This isn't a military newsgroup.

2. I am free to make judgments (not judegements) on anything you write here.

3. Nobody has done anything to abrogate your rights to free speech. You
simply don't understand that while you are free to speak or write, no
one must listen. No one must refrain from heckling. No one must agree
with you. No one must show deference to you.

The balance of your rant snipped.

Dave K8MN