thanks cecil, i kinda didn't fully understand some things in dan's post
my overalll takeaway was that just adding length to the antenna might be
'bad' ie not really garantee full band tremendious signal improvements
160m-10m in the same direction as i radiate now (mostly e-w) from his
post maybe he might add a few more comments to see how i can add
length and non direction gain to my setup on the higher freq side as
well as the lower

but i understood what you wrote cecil

i think for me to just try it might be most fun perhaps w/a switch
In article ,
Cecil Moore wrote:

ml wrote:
but if I made the antenna length for ex 74' it's 'bad' or sort of less
than ideal things would happen on say 10m??? meaning it would be
'too' long?

Too long for what? Horizontal long wire antennas have
certain radiation characteristics. Consider the rhombic.
Some say it's the best antenna in the world.

so my goal here was an extreem gain 2orders of magnatude at least i
sorta thought that perhaps a wave on the lowest freq (160)might be
ok, but i get confused on how say that would negatively effect 10m
as the lobes increse their the penality is lots of nulls and radating
in odd directions?

Sometimes "odd" directions are the best if that's the
direction of your desired contact.

My own 130 foot dipole works like gangbusters on 17m.
It has 8 lobes each at about 8 dBi with a take-off-
angle of 19 degrees.

so if i was listening to 10m and a sig was comming in on my existing
antenna say s9 and i made the antenna 74ft the signal would be lower?
maybe?

Maybe lower but maybe higher. Unknown directions for
horizontal antennas may be good.

The g5rv designer, Mr. Varney, deliberately designed his
20m dipole to be "too long" because he desired the multi-
lobed radiation pattern.