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Dave Heil · November 4th 06, 07:44 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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What we got there in Heil's (altered?) version of his
personal biographic factoids is strangely similar to
the undetailed, grandiose CLAIMS of the former "war
hero of the USMC," Major Dud (Robeson). :-)

Other than being in country, Heil has made no claims of direct action
or heroism.

As far as I'm concerned, he was just another REMF who, years
later, is playing everyone as if he were the big hero in "a
country at war!" [those REMFs are spotted miles away...]

He may have been a REMF, but I don't know.

No, you don't know and Len is busy with more falsehoods like "big hero
in 'a country at war'". What is really peculiar is Len's spouting off
about rear echelon anything. After all, that exactly where *he* spent
his time in the military.

No problem on proof for me. I've got my records and some
of them are digitized (PDF for universality in viewing)
from their original form. The official archives in
St. Louis (NARA Military Personnel Records Center) has
them for proof by anyone with access.

I'm good with what Heil has presented.

I'm not. He was "in" the USAF but that's all I will accept.
That military time should have been good for his guvmint
pension accumulation time, though...probably his whole plan
for his future?

Said he lives in a tar paper shack in WV. That doesn't sound like
bragging, and it's something I can believe.

Len's statement makes him look quite foolish. Better than a decade
passed between the end of my time in the Air Force and the beginning of
my employment with the Department of State.

FWIW, I think the state dept was merely a vehicle for dxpeditions, not
a significant grab for a fat pension.

It resulted in good pay, world travel, a chance to put some rare spots
on the map and a modest pension. Len Anderson was no more involved in
my employment than he is in amateur radio.

Oh, my, here comes Major Dud Robeson the II. :-)
Naw. He's playing tag with Mark.
Whatever. :-)

I think all of Marks out-assholing Robesin has finally paid off.

I think it has paid off in spades for the Colonel/geophysicist. He is
now recognized as a twit in entirely new circles.

Since 54 years ago I've been acquainted with (perhaps) hundreds
of military personnel both as one myself and (much longer) as
a civilian. I don't know of ANY military personnel who "DIDN'T"
receive any specialty training after their Basic Training (or
Boot Camp for USN and USMC and USCG).
There were a handful of billets that were DDA. Most of the unskilled
work was handled by folks getting kicked out for various
non-adaptability issues.

No doubt. Thing is, Heil could usually claim anydamnthing he
wanted knowing that few in public venues of now would have been
in the Air Force in Vietnam. Just like there are few amateurs
who were in the State Department. Given that kind of an
"audience," he can get away with all kinds of brags...and
saying lots of generalities without going into specifics.

My favorite is his brag about working out of band Frenchmen on 6M.

At no time did I brag about working out-of-band French stations on any
band. I am not responsible for checking the band allocation of any
station I work. That matter rests with the responsible licensing
authority in that station's country. Live with it.

What an idiot.

I agree with your self-description.

One thing good is
that the old "oil burner routes" aren't there in civilian
aviation notices...the old SAC practice runs on "targets"
similar to USSR target locations. Be thankful that MAD worked!

Almost nobody alive today knows about that.

Many people alive today know about it, Brian.

But...in Heil's case WE don't really know in DETAIL what
Heil actually did. He hasn't described it in anything but
vague generalities and intimations of work performed.
I don't even know if it was fixed or tactical, but that's alright.

He implies it was something like "under fire" but that isn't
the info I get from folks who worked HF comms there and not
much is written up in the Army Center for Military History
except NON-morse comms.

Len likes to write things like "he implies". I implied no such thing at
any time. The fact is that Len doesn't know what I did and he is fishing.

The information isn't hard to come by on the web. If Len can't find it,
he'll have to stay in the dark.

Dave K8MN