HH wrote:
Been there and done that, and I didn't find the page you found, thank you
all for your help.
I really appreciate it!

You might try venturing out to your local hardware, plumbing, or DIY
store with a ruler. It's less convenient than surfing the Internet, but
there's no problem with finding the right URL. All you have to find is
the pipe.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL