Oh, my, some SPITE was carried over to homebrew on
Presidents Day just because "CW" was discussed. I am
bringing it back to policy where it should go until
the moderated newsgroup is open.
Be aware that this thread in RRAH started with a simple
question by another asking if FCC 06-178 would "eliminate
the CW bands" [in amateur radio operation] That was
answered. After that it segued into discussion of early
(pre-1900) use of morse code then it was triggered into
modern times by those who feel that "CW" MUST be given
ten kinds of attention than anything else. Miccolis
*HAD* to make noise in his usual manner there even though
he was not involved.
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From:
Date: 19 Feb 2007 10:02:39 -0800
Local: Mon, Feb 19 2007 10:02 am
Subject: CW Bands
On Feb 18, 11:15?pm, " wrote:
Ian White GM3SEK wrote on Sun, 18 Feb 2007
Actually, that depends on how you define "biggest".
Whatever YOU have is 'always' biggest. Yes, we all know.
:-)
? ?I first "fired up" on HF in February 1953, part of my being
? ?assigned to a US Army communications station in Tokyo. ?
Incorrect quotation. I did not write those question marks.
Other than that, a 20-page photo essay describing what
was done over a three-year period is a free download:
http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf
On a dial-up connection that will take about 18 minutes and
is about 6 MB in size.
A station that was maintained by several hundred Army personnel.
It was? Were you THERE? No, you were busy gestating
at the time, hadn't emerged yet.
Sorry, but I don't have a COMPLETE T.O.& E. (Table of
Organization and Equipment) of the Battalion and can
only approximate the number of personnel by direct
visual observation being IN that battalion.
That
? ?was a small 1 KW HF transmitter using TTY FSK. ?There were
? ?three dozen other transmitters there; six more would be
? ?added by 1955. ?NONE of the radio circuits of this 3rd
? ?largest Army station used any OOK CW mode of modulation.
Incorrect quotation. I did not write those question marks.
However, that was one station in one place.
Yes, amazing deduction, Sherlock Miccolis! :-)
The other stations of ACAN, the Army Command and Administrative
Network (the acronym of that time) were at Ft. Detrick, MD,
[WAR, the center point for this worldwide network], plus (to
the circuits of ADA in ACAN) Anchorage, Alaska, Seattle, WA,
San Francisco, CA (actually Davis, CA, outside of San Fran),
Honolulu, Hawaii, Manila in the Phillippines, Okinawa, Pusan
and Seoul, Korea, and Saigon, Vietnam. Once a month there
was a test period of communications to Asmara, Eritrea to
check predicted propagation from Asia into east Africa.
Another free upload:
http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...phabetSoup.pdf
Shows a map of the radio circuits as they were about 1963
for ADA into an enlarged ACAN...the network having changed
its name. There and on the Links section for US Army in
Europe (USAEUR) private historical site is the full TTY
message routing paths over the world. Note that the TTY
message address preamble would use the "Rxxx" designator,
NOT the originating or final receiving Army radio station
callsign. ADA in Tokyo was "RUAP" and WAR at Ft. Detrick
was "RUEP."
It was not necessarily
representative of all military radio communications at the time, nor
of amateur radio communications, then or now.
"Not necessarily representative of 'all military radio
communications at the time?" Silly little man, this
was a specific period of 1953 to 1956 when I was a
PART of that operation, IN the US Army, a station that
was under Central Command, US Army in Japan, supporting
the Far East Command Headquarters then in Tokyo. I've
not claimed otherwise.
However, the photo essay manuscript was sent to Mr.
James Brendage, a now-retired civilian engineer who
was THERE and working IN that facility. Jim Brendage
sent me in return supplementary material that was
produced by that Signal Battalion after I left. That
(digitzed) became the other document at Hal
Hallikainen's site called "AlphabetSoup." I received
other photos and documents from Jim Brendage and
exchanged information about the late Walter Ross, an
RCA (EASD, Van Nuys, CA) staff engineer (in my working
group at RCA!) who had also worked at ADA as a civilian
engineer before I was assigned there. Walt had seen
some of the 600 color slides I had taken at ADA and
didn't say they were incorrect or faulty.
In addition to that, I've been in e-contact with a
retired USAF MSgt who had worked at the new ADA
transmitter site after 1963 and the USAF having been
assigned responsibility there. We shared much info,
with him interested in "how it was in the beginning"
meaning the 1954 time that I helped move the trans-
mitter site up to Kashiwa, Japan. Worse yet (for you)
is that I've maintained e-contact with a licensed
radio amateur (and licensed radio professional) now
retired from the FAA who was assigned to the SAME
battalion, SAME company, SAME duties at the ADA
transmitter site but on another of the four operating
teams. Gene can verify as to my accuracy in the
photo essay.
I've never claimed my military assignment involved
amateur radio. At best, one radio circuit was available
to the Tokyo MARS facility on a third-priority basis,
RTTY only. MARS operations in Tokyo were divorced
from the ACAN network administration some time in
1955. MARS does not, cannot operate IN USA amateur
bands...it is under the directorate of the Department
of Defense.
However, technology-wise, a vacuum tube power amplifier
stage for HF range operates the SAME for amateur or
commercial applications now in 2007. The rule of
thumb in tuning tube power amplifiers is the same
now as it was a half century ago, "peak the grid and
dip the plate." [referring to currents]
? ?In my subsequent career change after service into
? ?electronics design engineer I've never had a requirement
? ?to use OOK CW on radio. ?
INCORRECT quotation. I did not write those question
marks. Try not to selectively EDIT quotations.
You have also never been a radio amateur.
I've never claimed to be one.
Nor a professional radio operator.
INCORRECT. WRONG. MISTAKE. BULL****, little man.
I have three old First Class Radiotelephone (Commercial)
certificates with handwritten signatures of officials
at various stations attesting to my professional services
rendered. Those signatures were done and dated when that
First 'Phone license was in force. Some of those are
for broadcasting stations but an equal number are for
corporations involved in private radio communications.
One of the latter is by one of my partners in a private
business...which may be a subject of a new Flame War by
some self-styled amateur communications attornies.
In several years of working at private corporations
involved with Department of Defense radio and radio-
related contracts, that First 'Phone was NOT necessary.
DoD radio communications do not fall under FCC
jurisdiction. The FCC is chartered by Congressional
LAW to regulate USA *civil* communications.
"Professional" work is that which is compensated for
monetarily. [one gets MONEY for services renedered]
I was paid money regularly and the IRS and Franchise
Tax Board of California attesting to that.
Until 2005 when my wife and I bought
? ?a new car having a keyless entry radio-on-a-chain-fob. ?That
? ?fob transmitter is OOK CW. ?But, its data rate is beyond
? ?human cognition, ANY human.
Incorrect quotation AGAGIN! I did not write all those
question marks that you apparently added.
Of what relevance is that to amateur radio?
The keyless entry transmitter uses OOK CW mode!
Your favorite mode! They mode you are so inordinately
proud of! The mode that enabled you to get an amateur
extra class amateur radio license!
Aren't you more upset personally that we bought a NEW
car in 2005? And paid CA$H for it? :-) It's a nice
white exterior Chevrolet Malibu MAXX, very comfortable,
has taken us from California to Wisconsin and back, to
Washington state and back. My wife used the car
today and transmitted OOK CW without any radio license
via that keyless entry transmitter! Maybe you'd like
to inform the FCC about this "illegal use" of radio
by the unlicensed-in-any-radio-activity? :-)
? ?I have nothing against telegraphic skills nor anyone using
? ?those for personal pleasure. ?
Many of your statements elsewhere on Usenet contradict that.
Awww, poor baby. Still have the Spite spiked high with
adding all those question marks I never wrote? Yes, you
are certainly upset by what I've said.
However, in the light of
? ?advancement of the electronic arts, communications, radio,
? ?methods that ALL of us can share, I think there is an
? ?over-much emphasis by radio hobbyists on telegraphic arts.
INCORRECT QUOTATIONS AGAIN! Oh, my, still sticking your
question mark where it doesn't belong?
IOW, it's OK with you if someone uses it, as long as they don't
emphasize it.
"IOW?" Is that a morsemen's union? Oh, you mean "In
Other Words!" Oh, my, if I wanted to write "other
words," I would have written OTHER WORDS. Did I write
"other words?" No, I didn't.
Why do you say I wrote "other words" when I didn't
write other words?
Why are sticking those question marks all over my
quotes?
? ?Manual telegraphy IS a historic first but it has been
? ?supplanted in practical communications means at our
? ?disposal...on land, in the air, on the sea, and in space.
Morse Code is also practical communications.
So are blinking lights, semaphore flags, ship signal
pennants, Boy Scout wig-wag flags, railroad lights,
traffic lights (that show "go" and "stop").
Show us MODERN-DAY COMMUNICATIONS services STILL USING
morse codes...OTHER than amateur radio. Can you find
any?
And it is widely used in amateur radio today.
Not a quantitative statement. According to an ARRL
poll, OOK CW is the SECOND-PLACE mode on amateur HF
bands. It's an old poll. Maybe radio amateurs have
suddenly taken up morsemanship and are busy, busy,
busy dotting and dashing everywhere? How wonderful
for you...you now have hopes for playmates on radio
in the future!
? ?I think we should be looking FORWARD to the future, not
? ?back to the past. ?Others disagree. ?I leave it at that.
What does "FORWARD to the future" really mean in that context?
Try NOT using Knotts Berry Farm "railway station"
automated sounder in their REPRODUCTION of an old-
time rail station. Hardly an "authoritative source."
Now you show us all a Non-Amateur radio service that
regularly uses morse code mode for COMMUNICATIONS.
TODAY. This year. NOT an exhibit or reproduction.
A working service.
Better yet...bring out your WIFE, as a "witness" to
some inaccuracies I'm supposed to have stated. You
DO have a wife, don't you? And one with an amateur
radio license, right? Good lad, I knew you could...
Tsk, Jimmie put two and two together and got ate...
Chow,
LA