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Dave Heil · February 22nd 07, 03:44 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
From: person J on 20 Feb 2007 16:42:59 -0800

Here's what *really* happened:

PERSON J MAKES ANOTHER FACTUAL ERROR...

HERE is what happened, visible by anyone at RRAH:

On Feb 12 'Julian814' asked about CW use in ham bands after
23 Feb 07.
On the same date about an hour later Michael Black stated
that this subject was not one for rec.radio.amateur.homebrew.
'Caveat Lector' made a comment next about 3 hours later.
On 13 Feb, 'GKB', Scott, John Siegel all made comments.
On 14 Feb, Geoffrey S. Mendelson made a comment from Israel.
About 3 hours later 'Julian814' posts again, followed by
Dee Flint two hours after that.
On 15 Feb Ken Scarf made a comment.
On 16 Feb Geoffrey Mendelson made another post and I replied
to that (about 3 hours later) stating some difference of
opinion on early telegraphy methods prior to 1900...based
on information obtained from several sources, including the
website of the descendents of Alfred Vail.
On 17 Feb Ken Scarf made a short comment about modern day
morse code use.
On 18 Feb I replied to that and stated that the commentary
between myself and Mendelson was about pre-1900 telegraphy.
About 2 hours later, Ian White made a long post objecting to
my comments about morse code being supplanted by other modes
and used his father-in-law and wife as "witnesses." According
to White, his father had taken his wife (and presumably the
rest of her family) to Knotts Berry Farm near Anaheim, CA,
where the father-in-law described an old railroad station
telegram station with its sounder tapping out "eat chicken
dinners" continually.
Also on 18 Feb 'Highland Ham' made a short comment.

In typical Len Anderson/Major Hoople style, you made numerous windy,
pontificating, condescending and rambling statements which were not
directed toward homebrewing anything, much less amateur radio homebrewing.

In two posts that I made, 4 and 6 days after the first one,
the SUBJECT was addressed in some detail.

Your posts were made long after Micheal Black advised the original
poster that the SUBJECT was off-topic for the newsgroup. What you did
was address a SUBJECT which didn't belong. That didn't stop Leonard H.
Anderson.

There was no
overt expression of "dislike for 'CW'" by myself.

Just covert expression, huh?

Seven days after the first post in the thread, Miccolis
just HAD to say something negative about my posting. :-)

You just HAD to say something negative or dismissive about the responses
of just about anyone who posted, but that was okay.

What he 'read' is stated as follows:

Len made a lengthy post that contained comments
on the US railroad system, landline telegraph communications,
Knott's Berry Farm and other tourist attractions, stagecoaches,
wives-and-families, Len's lack of use of Morse Code in military
communications, 50plus years ago, Len's parents watching the
lunar landings on TV, keyless auto security systems and more.

The US railroad system, Knotts Berry Farm, wife and father-
in-law were first mentioned by Ian White. White's posting
made NO mention about "amateur radio homebrew" but focussed
on post-1900 telegraphy, particularly on the railroads, and
World War 2 where his father-in-law "pounded brass" while
in the military. Actually, NONE of the postings up to
18 Feb mentioned "amateur radio homebrew" except for the
second posting by Michael Black. Black correctly stated
that 'Julian814's' posting didn't belong in that newsgroup.

But, as stated, Miccolis HAD to vent his spite and make
noise while denigrating another WITHOUT addressing any
"homebrew" subjects.

....while you made numerous lengthy, wandering responses and "made noise"
despite knowing that the subject was off-topic.

I didn't see a single word from Len in his long posting
about amateur radio homebrew.

Awwww...you wanted PRAISE and HONOR just for morse code?

Where was any such idea put forth?

The very last day of license testing requiring cognition
of low-rate morse code is 22 February 2007...only two
more days. After that, NO US amateur radio license exams
will require any morse code tests. Yes, US amateurs may
still USE morse code according to FCC regulations. That
will help ease their personal burdens of anger, rage, spite,
and other personal defects of behavior.

How will you ease your personal burdens of anger, rage, spite and other
personal defects of behavior as described in the N2EY profile of your
actions?

I'll be able to use Morse, FM, SSB, AM, RTTY and other digital modes on
the amateur radio bands today, on Friday and at any time after that
date. What will you be doing on the amateur radio bands after Friday,
Len? I assume it will be what you did last week or more than ten years
back--zip, zilch, nuthin'.

They can re-enact
their dreams of "pioneering the airwaves" and "progressing
the state of the art of OOK CW" even though that had been
reached decades ago by predecessors.

And you may play make-believe ham radio operator in internet newsgroups.

Let those poor soul
morsemen sweat and itch over the rightness of a federal
decision...

The decision may or may not have been "right". History will reveal
whether it was right or wrong. You may sweat, itch, live and die
without ever having been a part of amateur radio, Len.

...something done not to ease THEIR self-important
delusions, but to benefit ALL.

There has never been a fellow with more self-important delusions
participating in this newsgroup than Leonard H. Anderson,
non-participant in amateur radio.

Morse code apparently
means more than life itself to some of those OOK CW
dreamers.

That isn't apparent at all, Len. The only person to make such a
statement is you.

Miccolis, take your aggreived soul and mighty self-
importance and go somewhere where the code hive-mind is
desired.

You don't give orders here, Leonard.

The word is "aggrieved".

There you can bitch and moan about all the
upstarts, "error-making" persons who were doing actual
radio operating BEFORE you were born, the so-called
"moderators" who are upstaging YOUR constant attempts
at moderating them.

You weren't a radio amateur before Jim was born and you haven't become
one since Jim was born. You've not upstaged anyone, Len. You're
irrelevant to amateur radio.

Enjoy the company among the hive-
minds. It will be a comfort to you, a safety place
where you can be as ****ily pedantic as you were in
here. You will be applauded for such state-of-the-art
policy discussions such as "bandplans of 1940."

Along comes Major Hoople to stand on the sidewalk and tell us how
amateur radio should be regulated. Your comfort is usenet, Leonard.
You've found a place where you can tell those upstart radio amateurs
about your glory days of fifty-plus years ago. You can expound on your
past working years, describe your northern and southern homes, tell
folks about your car and prescribe sage advice about horizontally
mounted loops, shielded with Reynolds Wrap (coaxial cable must have been
in short supply).

Dave K8MN