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Old February 23rd 07, 12:33 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
[email protected] LenAnderson@ieee.org is offline
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From: Dave Heil on Thu, 22 Feb
2007 15:44:05 GMT

PERSON J MAKES ANOTHER FACTUAL ERROR...


WHO is "person J," red-hatted one?

WHO are all the other "Persons" mentioned? :-)


Your posts were made long after Micheal Black advised the original
poster that the SUBJECT was off-topic for the newsgroup. What you did
was address a SUBJECT which didn't belong. That didn't stop Leonard H.
Anderson.


Feel free to address the Appelate Court of Internet Appeals,
file a Notice of Intent to Sue.

[Sue is the clerk of the court...]


There was no overt expression of "dislike for 'CW'" by myself.


Just covert expression, huh?


"Covert?!?" Did you find some developing fluid to make the
"secret hidden message" visible to all? :-)

Or have you drunk that "developing fluid" too hastily? :-)


You just HAD to say something negative or dismissive about the responses
of just about anyone who posted, but that was okay.


"Just about 'anyone' who posted?!?" Heh heh heh, only
about some organ grinders and their little red-hatted
morse monkeys who do bad imitations of Otto Preminger.


...while you made numerous lengthy, wandering responses and "made noise"
despite knowing that the subject was off-topic.


WHO established this "off-topic" status? YOU didn't.
Miccolis didn't. RRAH is an unmoderated newsgroup.


Awwww...you wanted PRAISE and HONOR just for morse code?


Where was any such idea put forth?


Oh, just in hundreds of past postings by the organ
grinder and his little red-hatted morse monkey for
years... :-)


How will you ease your personal burdens of anger, rage, spite and other
personal defects of behavior as described in the N2EY profile of your
actions?


Ooooooo! I have all those things? :-)

I will continue, as I've done before, of laughing my
head off at the FACTUAL ERROR-FILLED "profiles" your
organ grinder cranked out. :-)



I'll be able to use Morse, FM, SSB, AM, RTTY and other digital modes on
the amateur radio bands today, on Friday and at any time after that
date.


Wonderful...who was STOPPING you before? Hollingsworth?
Martin? The CIA?

What will you be doing on the amateur radio bands after Friday,
Len?


Was I supposed to be "doing something on the amateur radio
bands?" :-)

"On the bands?" No, you should have written "IN" the bands.

Tsk, tsk, factual English Error!

Hmmm...not that it's any of YOUR nosy business, but we (that
is, my wife and I) have plans and events for the week-end.
The AAA 500 is on at the California Speedway in Fontana on
Sunday...one example.


And you may play make-believe ham radio operator in internet newsgroups.


I do that?!? Oh, my, you DO have a terrible ability to
read...

Tsk, I've never claimed to be either an amateur radio
operator or a "ham radio" operator in real life or in
newsgroups, not on BBS or in correspondence with amateur
radio organizations. Don't even play one on TV.

You are confused and think I am someone else...


The decision may or may not have been "right". History will reveal
whether it was right or wrong.


We can rest assured that the organ grinder and his little
red-hatted morse monkey will OVER-RIDE any "decisions of
history!" :-)

THEY are always telling everyone what they should think!


You may sweat, itch, live and die
without ever having been a part of amateur radio, Len.


That isn't causing me any worry. :-)

It DOES seem to bother YOU a great deal! Have you sought
medical help for your condition?


There has never been a fellow with more self-important delusions
participating in this newsgroup than Leonard H. Anderson,
non-participant in amateur radio.


Now, now, don't put yourself and Miccolis down so much.
Either one of you are much more self-important than I.
It is and has been repeated by you two in here for years.

Did you know that "radio" is used in OTHER radio services
and by the military and government of the USA? Really.
"Amateur radio" isn't the sole user of radio. Really.


You don't give orders here, Leonard.


Jawhol! Gruss Gott herr Kommandant! click heels in
acknowledgement


You weren't a radio amateur before Jim was born and you haven't become
one since Jim was born.


Who is "Jim?" Is he the one cranking that rusty organ?

Tsk, tsk, and doing that in public view, too!!


You're irrelevant to amateur radio.


So you keep saying! Well, say it enough times and maybe
someone besides this "Jim" will believe you. That's the
spirit of using the "Big Lie" technique of propaganda.


Along comes Major Hoople to stand on the sidewalk and tell us how
amateur radio should be regulated.


Who is this "Major Hoople?" I don't know any "Major
Hoople." You say he was in the newspaper comic strips?
I never saw that strip. Did you have it mixed up with
Hal Foster's "Prince Valiant?" Or Milton Caniff's
"Terry and the Pirates?" "The Katzenjammer Kids?"

I know of a "Major Bowes" who used to host an old, old
radio broadcast show called "Major Bowes' Amateur Hour."
The few times I heard that did not include anything
about radio amateurs. I didn't listen to it much, so
maybe other airings of that program had something about
amateur radio?

Your comfort is usenet, Leonard.


It is? I don't think so. My comfort is my wife, a nice
home (two of them, debt free), good food, good health,
and a nice collection of money earned at a profession
I've chosen and enjoyed in my working career. Others'
mileage obviously varies...

You've found a place where you can tell those upstart radio amateurs
about your glory days of fifty-plus years ago.


"Glory days?" Nah. Just a citizen volunteering for
military service, serving and doing what he was told
to do. Your organ grinding master never did that.

Anyone can see it at:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

About 6 MB file size, may take 18 minutes download on a
dial-up connection. 20 pages, lots of photos, mostly
ones I took.


You can expound on your
past working years, describe your northern and southern homes, tell
folks about your car and prescribe sage advice about horizontally
mounted loops, shielded with Reynolds Wrap (coaxial cable must have been
in short supply).


I can? Oh, my, you said at the beginning that I COULDN'T!

Please make up your mind.

The late-1960s horizontal loop was an experiment that didn't
work out too well. Too much inductance, too many turns of
wire...with too much inductance the resonating capacity was
too small to allow fixed tuning at 60 KHz. A later version
used 55 turns of #14 THHN insulation electric power wire
(solid) on a 2 1/2-foot circular form (again for 60 KHz,
the carrier frequency of WWVB out of Ft. Collins, CO),
wrapped with twine and varnished. That was wrapped with
aluminum foil for an electrostatic shield, not a continuous
connection. That was wrapped in more twine and varnished
three times. Two 10-foot 75 Ohm "TV cable" sections were
connected to it in balanced configuration, the two coax
cables' ground at the center-tap. The cable capacity makes
up part of the 60 KHz resonant tuning, final trimming done
by a 2-section "BC band" variable capacitor. Input below
the vertically-oriented loop is to a differential FET
source-follower pair to a voltage-controlled-gain
differential amplifier. Oriented NE towards Ft. Collins,
it provides a good signal from WWVB which is then limited
as well as mildly bandpass filtered. The limiter output
provides a fairly steady carrier at 60 KHz which feeds a
phase-frequency-detector comparing a 60 KHz quartz-crystal
oscillator which is electronically trimmed through the PLL
loop filter (time-constant about 2 seconds) so that the
crystal oscillator remains in phase with the WWVB carrier.
Overall receiving bandwidth is narrower than 0.5 Hz so the
equivalent signal-to-noise ratio is high. A second PLL
uses the 60 KHz crystal oscillator as reference to compare
the 10 MHz time-base oscillator of a frequency counter,
both divided down to 1 Second period for the second phase-
frequency detector. That way I am always assured of an
accurate frequency counter reading good to better than
100 Parts Per Billion (not Million).

Note: The "receiver" (a basic TRF configuration) is held
stabilized in a slow-speed AGC loop with a small meter
readout of carrier level. Limiter action is about 55 db
compression so the AGC loop turned out to be redundant.
The observed maximum-to-minimum signal strength from WWVB
(about 1 KMile distant) has been less than 10 db (in
power) during about two years of use. This is less than
the predicted variations published by NIST on their time-
frequency pages at www.nist.gov. Observed transients
and noise at the limiter output from all other electrical
sources in the household are no more than about -30 dbm
of minimum received carrier level. Internal DC supply
is double and triple series-regulated to obtain +12 and
+5 VDC operating voltages. I may add a battery-backup
inside the 1/10th cubic foot enclosure later to
replace the external small UPS. It would be nice to
compare the 10 KHz internal divider signal agains a
rubidium oscillator standard in the future. Right now
I am satisfied with the accuracy checked in several
other ways, no need for doing an Allan Variance.

Thanks for asking...