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Old February 25th 07, 08:15 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Owen Duffy Owen Duffy is offline
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Default tuner - feedline - antenna question ?

dansawyeror wrote in
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All,

I am trying to install a trapped 40m dipole in the attic, the antenna

is
in place however it is short and resonates at about 7.7 MHz. I decided
to try it by using a tuner close to the transmitter in the shack. The
feedline is 50 ohm coax. On low power the tuner creates a very low SWR.
The transmitter is a solid state 100 watt Heathkit.

However when I transmit according to the SWR Watt meter the system
appears to transmit well over 200 watts. It pined the meter on a 200
watt range. I repeated the test twice and then stopped. When it is
transmitting the SWR reads about 1.1 to 1. The meter works very well

and
does not exhibit strange readings on other setups.

My questions a What is happening? What is causing it?

Thanks - Dan


Dan,

I assume in all these scenarios, the VSWR meter is between the
transmitter and ATU, and the ATU is adjusted for low VSWR.

You seem to say raise two issues:
-you have adjusted the tuner for a "very low SWR" on "low power"
(whatever each of those means), and when you transmit at "well over 200
watts" the SWR is 1.1:1; and
- your transmitter rated at 100W indicates "well over 200 watts" into a
1.1:1 load.

Re the first issue: If this is to mean the VSWR is higher on higher
power, the most common reason (but not the only one) that VSWR meters
read better VSWR on very low power is to do with the voltage drop across
the diode(s) in the meter. The scale may be calibrated at higher power
where the diode drop is less significant, perhaps even insignificant, and
when you adjust the meter for maximum sensitivity the diode drop
introduces significant error.

Re the second issue, if the instrument is a typical directional
wattmeter, the power output is calculated by deducting the "reflected
power" from the "forward power", but at VSWR=1.1 the "reflected power is
0.2% of "forward power" and insignificant. Otherwise, it might just have
an RF voltmeter sampling the line and calibrated in watts, and which is
only valid at very low VSWR. Transmitters don't often exceed their rated
power by over 100%, so your reading casts doubt on your meter. It sounds
like you need to make another measurement with another instrument to
locate the problem.

Owen