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Old March 7th 07, 10:44 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Default Is it possible to estimate any losses due to an unmatched antenna?

"MRW" wrote in news:1172850043.053869.294430@
30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Good morning!

I would like to request some additional info regarding the following
matter.

Is there a way to approximate the antenna factor loss (in dB/m) for an
x-length (in inches ... maybe 26 inches) regular telescoping, monopole
antenna that will be subjected to frequencies between 88-108MHz (FM
band) at a height between 2ft to 15ft from the ground?

Here's the scenario. A 50-ohm receiver will be used. A cable with an
insertion loss of 1.5dB will also be used. The receiver has
sensitivity levels as low as -5 dBuV. The lowest received signal that
we want to measure is 100uV/m.

I am concerned that if an unmatched monopole antenna is used in this
system, then it is possible that very low level signals will not be
measured. I'm trying to estimate the lowest amount of signal the
receiver will be able to pickup using this setup.

I have the following relationship:

dB(uV/m) = dBuV + Antenna Factor (dB/m) + cable loss (dB)

So, I get:

dBuV = 40 dB(uV/m) - Antenna Factor (dB/m) - 1.5 dB(cable loss)


MRW,

I had forgotton writing a little calculator that will find the receive
power given field strength given field strength, freq, antenna gain etc,
it is at http://vk1od.net/sc/FS2RPCalc.htm . For your purposes, make the
"Field Strengh" and "Receiver" bandwidths and distance to source the same
as each other, the actual values don't matter (well, so long as they are
greater than zero).

Owen



Now, if only I can estimate the antenna factor, then it would give me
an idea whether or not the resulting dBuV level is still higher than
-5 dBuV.

I was told that there may be a way to estimate the antenna impedance
assuming certain conditions. I was hoping to find some reference for
this subject, and just assume how much of the signal is lost due to
the antenna impedance and 50-ohm receiver impedance mismatch. I have
seen some nomograph for VSWR, so I figured if I can find the estimated
antenna impedance at the given conditions, then I can calculate
reflection coefficient and relate that to VSWR and then to the
nomograph to get my antenna factor value.


What do you experienced ones think? Thanks!