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Old March 10th 07, 04:31 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
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On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
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On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message


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On Mar 8, 10:08?am, wrote:
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:35 -0500, "Lardass Davies"


wrote:


You would have passed that exam if the VE didn't hate bisexual

pagens
morkietard.


no I might have passed it if I had not been tried frommaking the

trip
in this season which I had to do becuase the locals VE were too
procode to schedlue a session here dispite having more poeple

asking
than have attened all ve's session combined in the last 2 years


Several points, Morkie...


First of all, FCC Rules and Regulations require that a VE team
consist of three unrelated (to the applicant) members. According

to
QRZ, I find less than 2 dozen licensed Amateurs within 20 miles of
you. You're shacked up with one of them, but in any case he's

only a
Technician and ineligible to test you anyway.


Secondly, the VE team members must be of at least equal

licensure
to the level being TESTED FOR...Not already in-hand. That means

that
only SEVEN of those number were even ELIGIBLE to be VE's to test

you
to the level of General, and only ONE of those persons holds an

Extra,
so no matter what, you'd have to drive somewhere to get above

General.

Now we get to the root of the matter. Unless the rules have

changed, a
VE
(with the exception of Extras) must have a license class higher than

the
exams they administer. Thus the General class licensee can only

administer
Tech class exams. To get above Tech, he would most likely have to

drive
somewhere else.


The Advanced and Extras can administer Tech & General Exams. The

Extras
can
administer Tech, General, and Extra exams. If your data is correct

on
the
number of licensees in the area, they could NOT have tested him for

General
unless there were also some Advanced class licensees around who were

VEs.
So it would seem that he asked for the impossible. No wonder they

would
not
schedule an exam for him.


Dee, N8UZE-


Dee, why do you even validate Robesin's remarks with a legitimate
reply?


Dee was not validating Robesin's remarks.


She replied to Robesin.


Oh. So that makes her, what? An accomplice? For being factual?

She was validating those of KH6HZ.


She replied to Robesin. She if free to reply to Deigan if it were
Deignan she wishe dto reply to.


As is her right. Now, if she were to crap on each and every post with inane
comments...well, we BOTH know who does that.


She was making a learned statement of fact. That KH6HZ
did a little research and pointed out some of the issues with the

numbers
and classifications of Hams in Mark's immediate area could have been
researched by anybody, even you.


Why would I? Is there another mailing going out to Mark's ham
neighbors?

Steve merely voiced the findings and added
to them.


Robesin adds nothing to the discussion except sexual inuendo and
accusations that Mark's wife is a man.


But..but...it is OK for Mark to outright state that Steve's wife should have
aborted their daughter?
And prove to us that Mark's alleged wife is of one gender or another. We
have no proof that she is even his wife.

In fact, Dee rightfully defended the VE's


So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE
team? That IS news to me.


How many of them are accredited VE examiners? Can you show me that?

that Mark wrongfully accused of
being "pro code", and who, according to Mark, refused him a test

session.

So who was this VE? What did he/she tell you about the discussion he
had with Mark?


I'd like to know that myself. We have only Mark's "word", and Mark has been
known to twist the facts to suit his eternal victim status.


Dee has a great amount of credibility.


Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as
"bias."


Dee is well educated. That apparently rankles you and Mark.


Mark has none. Dee has never misled
or printed falsehoods in these groups. Mark has.


So has Robesin and Deignan. How many amateurs are in their
"Hoods?" (Good luck on getting a valid address for Deignan.)


Why would I want same? Better yet, why would YOU want same?