On Mar 25, 2:26 pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 24, 7:50?am, wrote:





On Mar 24, 12:40 pm, wrote:

On 24 Mar 2007 08:35:26 -0700, wrote:

On Mar 22, 9:10 pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 22, 3:04?pm, wrote:

On Mar 22, 11:05 am, "David Stinson" wrote:

ARRL's "Diamond Terrace" Memorial

I do NOT understand this "fad" of placing bricks on the GROUND
to memorialize someone. ?I am not about to memorialize anyone
about whom I care or whom I respect by placing their name on
the ground where thoughtless people wipe dog-poop off their shoes
and spit their gum. ?I don't know who first thought of this fad
(and Lord, I hope it's a "passing fad"),
but it's a bad idea and I would never, ever do it.
Build a wall with the bricks, or anything else
other than a "walk on you daddy" place.
73 David S.

Could be like a Vietnam Vets memorial - in black and below ground
level.

? ?No...it is supposed to be a "playground" according to N2EY. ?[see
? ?RRAM recent post] ? :-(

I try not to read too much of him. ?It's bad ju-ju.

? ?Actually, it is just a small money-income-producing scheme by
? ?MY amateur radio organization (I joined) disguised as a "memorial."
? ?NOT a good choice in my opinion.

? ?I side with David Stinson: ?Make it a WALL, something that is
? ?upright, something one can be eye-to-eye with. ?NOT something
? ?to look down upon or to walk over.

? ?But, putting callsigns on the bricks? ?Some of those callsigns are
? ?(and have been) reassigned to later, living radio amateurs by the
? ?FCC. ?What then? ?As time progresses more of that will happen
? ?and all amateur radio license grantees do NOT "own their calls."

Mike Deignan will attest to that.

nah he could attest to this he will not

His actions and Riley's are a matter of public record, so we don't
need Mike to attest.

? ?Someone at the ARRL (perhaps a cardinal in the Church of
? ?St. Hiram?) got delusions of grandeur when trying to gen up
? ?some extra cash inflow. ?They should have thought SERIOUSLY
? ?about it beforehand.

I realize that every organizations needs cash-flow to operate, but
maybe callsign police badges would be a better way to go.

What's going to happen when the ARRL decides to remodel and the bricks
end up at the landfill?

or end up being nothing but silent keys

Future hams and ham families will flock to Newington, placing scraps
of paper over the brick and etching the callsign for posterity.

? ?"LIke" the Vietnam Memorial in DC? ?Good Lord! ?

"Like" as in -rejected- by many who served. ?But it's all they've got,
so now some embrace it.

? ?Amateur radio
? ?is NOT MILITARY SERVICE and NO ham has to put their LIFE
? ?into defending the Constitution of the ARRL! ?:-(

? ?73, Len ? ex-RA16408336

Jim served in other ways... ?No?

and sneers at those that served

Operating a ham radio in the ARC basement is the moral equivalent of
military service.

They call it "serving in other ways..." :-(

No pass unless a physical disability was involved. If they had better
things to do or just didn't want to, then too bad.

Let them go up to Newington's Barracks and stand guard
around the Diamond Terrace and protect it with their LIVES
if they want to "serve."

Ten-hut!

They only thing they "serve" is their own imaginations.

I'm with the ARRL Vice Director that said we shouldn't believe own own
BS.

Amateur radio is supposed to be about enjoying an
interesting, technical avocation. In here it is mostly
a group of middle-school mentality male misfits carping
at all the others who won't agree with them.

It can be about emergency communications.

For example, I have a fire extinguisher in my kitchen but that doesn't
mean that I'm the fire department.

The "Diamond Terrace" project is something the ARRL
thought up...apparently to enshrine its own home grounds.
I have nothing against such a project but I object to what
I think is a mis-use of "my club" funds in order to boost
their home grounds appearance and "memory." [I am a
member of the ARRL]

Perhaps actual ARRL members should have a complimentary brick, and not
through our windows.

Making up some nebulous "reason" for enshrining some
names, possibly callsigns, in a "memory walk" area is a
rather transparent effort to bring in more funds for the home
ground's budget. It only reinforces a false delusion of
"greatness" of past amateur radio hobbyists which will lead
other, newer amateurs into a false idea of their hobby.

The only "memorial" I need are the QSL cards that are in the shacks of
all the hams I've sent my card to.

The "Diamond Terrance" project isn't even close to the
Vietnam War Memorial. Those whose names are on that
memorial gave their LIVES in the service of their country.
Amateur radio is a hobby pursuit, NOT a "service to the
country" nor even close to it.

You can't completely ignore the emergency communications aspect of the
hobby.

Those of us who HAVE served our country in the military
know the true feeling of such service. Those who have
not so served will never know it nor understand it. They
cannot ever understand it.

73, Len AF6AY ex-RA16408336-

But they talk about it as if they might.