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Old September 4th 07, 10:45 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default 1640KHz saga continues

On Sep 3, 11:59 pm, wrote:
On Sep 3, 3:47 pm, Telamon
wrote:





In article . com,


wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:02 pm, wrote:
I can find no listing in any reference for TIS or any other non
commercial station
in KY.


Regarding my hunt for the UNID 1640 station rebroadcasting A NOAA
weather stream, I had assumed by content it was at or near Cave Run
Lake, near Morehead KY. But we visited there Friday and no signal. I
talked to the Corp of Engineers and they suggested we check in
Jackson. So off we went. As we approached Jackson it was clear it was
not there. But I decided to check the Jackson Airport/NOAA office to
see what they knew.


They were aware of the TIS stations in Winchester and Richmond that
carried NOAA and were for use in the event of a nerve agent leak from
the Blue Grass Army Depot in Richmond, but they knew of no station on
1640. They gave me a list of towns where there are low powered NOAA WX
transmitters to check and it wasn't in any of them. On a lark we went
to Richmond Yesterday and the TIS on 1610 is still only receivable
right next the the emergency center. But there was a different station
on 1640. This one is clearly connected with the Nerve Agent program
and may be in Berea, or it may originate on the depot proper and have
a very poor antenna/feedline/transmitter.Due to time constraints we
could go further south then the bypass in Richmond.


Sooner then later I hope to locate both 1640 transmitters.


Terry


I made a very good DF loop out of a square copper pipe loop a foot on
each side and my Wellbrook ALA100 amp. I tried a larger loop (2ft per
side) and the null was not very sharp. Perhaps it interacted with my
body since I did this handheld.


Anyway, DFing AM BCB is pretty trivial.


Try a round loop next time. It should have better nulls.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California


I made the loop myself so round isn't as easy as square. However, if
the nulls are sharper, I would make the effort. Anywhere on the net I
can read about the difference between round and square loops.

Note the newest Wellbrook design is using a triangular loop.- Hide quoted text -

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Loop Antennas : Relative Size and Ease of Construction

Circular (Round) Loops about the size of a big Hula Hoop
* Stretch out your Arms - The distance between your Hands.

Vertical Square-Rectangle Two Vertical Support-Points
* Single narrow footprint along the Ground.
* Height being the main Limiting Factor.

Vertical Triangle One High Vertical Support-Point
* Single narrow footprint along the Ground.
* Height being the main Limiting Factor.
* The two Slopping Sides of the Triangle are
Angled to Face the incoming Sky-Waves along
the Plane of the Triangle the K9AY Loop Antenna
takes advantage of the Triangle Shape and uses
Termination to switch the Front-to-Back Sides.

Horizontal Square-Rectangle Four Vertical Support-Points
* Four narrow footprints along the Ground.
* Land being the main Limiting Factor.

that's how i see it ~ RHF