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Old February 29th 08, 02:58 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Default Antenna suggestions for Vertex FTL-2011 mounted on Metal andfiberglass railroad equipment.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:18:53 -0800, DVoeltz wrote:

I'm new to this and need your help in selecting which antennas to use on
my railroad motorcars.


How doggone cool! I saw a group of cars going through the bald eagle
valley in central PA last fall. I didn't know there was a big organized
group.

The radio will be moved between two pieces of equipment. One cab has a
flat metal roof and the other has a fiberglass cab. I would like an
antenna that I can unscrew from the cab when traveling the equipment
down the road on a trailer. The radio will be using the NARCOA licensed
frequency of 151.625 MHz. I understand that this frequency is in what is
known as the VHF-High Land Mobile Radio (LMR) Service band, and uses a
modulation known as narrow band (5 kHz deviation) FM. I will be using a
Vertex FLT 2011 40 Watt radio.

Based on the little I know about this, I understand a special antenna
will be needed for the fiberglass cab since there is no ground plane.
Both antenna will be mounted directly to the roof through a hole. The
radio will be mount within 2 feet of where this hole will be drilled so
I only need a short wire to connect from the antenna to the back of the
radio.

Ideally there would be a ground plane for both, but it seems that most
antenna mounts of the mag mount variety are getting their ground from the
electrical system, then the body of the car. If the whole body is
fiberglass, you could run some wires to use as ground plane under or on
top of the roof. They won't be very long.

You might want to get an antenna that has a removeable mast so that you
can just unscrew the antenna and leave the coax cable in place. If the
whole thing has to go with the car, you'll probably want a clamp on.

re you averse to building your own antenna? a 1/4 wave ground plane would
work very well, is easy to construct if you have some soldering skills,
and is very inexpensive. Rough details are that it would take around
18.and a half inch wire for the vertical section, and 4 wires of that
length for the radials.

If you are interested in that route, let me know and we can fill you in
on the details.

To see pictures of what this equipment is, go to:

www.narcoa.org


where does one get hild of one of those cars?

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-73 de Mike N3LI -