On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, A wrote:



On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Allodoxaphobia wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:39:43 -0400, A wrote:

Did any of you guys look at http://groups.google.com to see if what you
want is there? There are lots of ways to connect to NG servers that are
outside of your network (unless they disable nntp protocols).

Ya, but... Post from Google and a Great Portion of the usenet
population will never see your postings:

I have access to three non-Google ISPs and in recent months, the posts have
been getting out to all of them just as fast as I can log onto them by telnet
and check for myself. They have improved over, say, a year ago.

You miss the point, though I'm tired of seeing all this off-topic
discussion in every newsgroup as the clueless post about it rather
than know what's happening and finding the right place to post.

He's saying that many will filter out posts from google. Too much
spam, but too much cluelessness. People posting from google without
any awareness of where they are. People posting from google without
quoting what they are replying to. People posting from google and
being clueless about how others see the newsgroup, so they think
doing things like replying to spam with an empty message but a different
subject header will "fix things"; the rest of the world sees an empty
message that requires effort to figure out what the post is about since
we don't see it all on one webpage. Google has made it too easy
for people to post to Usenet, so they can post without giving any
thought to what already exists. They too often think a newsgroup
is a hangout, where anything goes so long as everyone shares the
common interest of the newsgroup. SO rather than find a newsgroup
where a post is on-topic, they post where their "buddies" are.

With each little bit, the newsgroups degrade just a little bit more.
Drive out the ones who know what they are doing, and then the clueless
can do whatever they like.

Michael VE2BVW