On Oct 31, 1:40*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
I can easily see myself as being viewed as an "unwashed ham" on this
newsgroup !
I hope you use a good deodorant. :/

I am still of the belief that on a fractional wave antenna the current
travels on both the outside
and the inside of the radiator.
It's a free country. But skin effect knows no boundaries I'm
afraid.

This puts me in opposition to the
multitude of "washed" *hams
who resist change even tho as yet I have not been proved as being in
error.

Nor have you taken any effort to prove you are not in error.
So what we end up with is a room of non stinky hams, who
have to hold their noses when a certain unwashed ham enters
the building. :/

I suppose a "washed" ham is one who is of the opinion that "all is
known about antennas" and thus
"change" is to be avoided.

No a washed ham would be one who showers or bathes on a fairly
regular basis, and most likely uses some type of deodorant.
I suppose a car wash could be a suitable substitution. Or a lake.
It's not really that critical as long as water is involved.

At the moment the consensus seems to be that current only flows on the
outside of a radiator as an open circuit where-as a few say the power
jumps from the end of the antennas to ground to complete a circuit.

My cat has new mittens. The ones we used last year jumped to
ground, and vaporized into black carbon based matter.
Almost like a fig neutrino which was left in an 450 degree oven
for 14 hours.

*One would tend to think that a newsgroup of "washed" hams would be
able to supply the definitive answer in line with "all is known".

Define "all is known".

Points to consider,
A fractional wavelength antenna is NOT in a state of equi;ibrium
( balanced forces if you prefer)

Define equilibrium as it relates to an antenna.

where a full wave radiator IS in a state of equilibrium ( balanced
forces where the sum of which equals zero) and all laws are based on a
state of equilibrium per classical physics

If a full wave radiator IS in a state of equilibrium, whatever that
means,
why are you interested in fractional antennas?
If a full wave is so special, why is a half wave generally just as an
efficient a radiator as a full wave?
Something for you to ponder during your next visit to the
water closet.


Best regards
Art

And likewise I'm sure. I'm going to go play in the dirt for a while.