On Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:45:40 PM UTC-7, Brenda Ann wrote:
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  You're insulting queers of all types.
 
  PeTA is my biggest peeve.. assholes claim they are for animal rights.. but
  the fact is that they  just don't want PEOPLE to have animals. What a 
  crock
  of crap. Rather than allow perfectly healthy cats and dogs to go to loving
  homes, they actually have PAID to get them out of shelters and then KILLED
  them right there in the parking lot.
 
  Hypocritical *******s like these need to be JAILED.
 
  Jeez.. now I'm gonna have a sour stomach all day.. 
 
 And all these years I thought you were one of the more intelligent 
 individuals in this newsgroup. Thank you for dissuading me of my erroneous 
 assessment Brenda Ann.
 
 
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 Pray tell... how do you come to that conclusion? Is there something logical 
 that I'm missing in people that claim to be for animal rights, yet kill 
 those self-same animals rather than allowing them to have a caring home?
 
 Mind you, I'm not against EVERYTHING that PeTA believes: I agree with their 
 basic stand against animals being used to test cosmetics. Also, I agree to 
 some extent with their stand against circuses using captured animals. I say 
 to some extent because as long as those animals are treated properly, they 
 are safer in a circus than being hunted out of existence in their natural 
 habitat.
 
 PeTA's treatment of domesticated animals is, however, appalling. These 
 creatures, if not allowed to remain in domestic situations, don't do well.. 
 They fight for resources amongst one another and against feral creatures in 
 the environment. Add to this, if they are left to their own devices in such 
 a way, we (the imperial "we") will consider them pests and capture and/or 
 kill them. So, is PeTA simply trying to cut out the middle man and kill them 
 themselves?
 
 Or, are you debating the well chronicled fact that PeTA indeed does these 
 killings?
 
 I await your response (I'm not one of those that simply states an opinion 
 and then tells everyone that disagrees to f*** off.. )
I would also make it clear that PETA's behavior toward shelter animals and pets appears to represent a minority view at this time among animal activists (myself included).  There are now many groups who advocate no-kill shelters and non-euthanasia except for terminally sick and unhappy animals.  Moreover, there are literally millions of individuals who work hard for either animal welfare or animal liberation no matter where the animals are what they are (myself included).  Justice and fairness for all, regardless of species.
I would even guess that many (maybe most) PETA members do not share the apparent philosophy of the current leadership.
I am not saying you are doing this, but please do not lump us all into one group, and Dhia Duit, be quite aware that I am not queer, although even if I was, it would be an irrelevant issue.
Bruce Jensen, opponent of *all* abuse, *all* incarceration of animals and all unnecessary killing.