I still maintain it is all a matter of achieve or cop out. Make excuses or
meet a challenge.
And you are correct "Code aptitude and IQ are completely unrelated" So much
for the "Engineer copout"

It has nothing to do whether you or I like or dislike the code.
It has nothing to do with "Antiquated technology"
It has nothing to do with "I'll never use code"
It has everything to do with "Want HF Ham Ticket -- Pass the Test "(at the
moment) If dropped is all OK with me. Times and requirements change as they
should.

Black and white -- yep sure is -- society, government, et al make it that
way. Don't Drink and Drive, 3 strikes you are outta here -- Pass the Test --
pretty black and white to me.

As for Anyone who used the code as an excuse for not becoming a ham,
just
wasn't serious about it.

An unsupported assertion, and untrue

I have talked with hundreds and I mean hundreds of folks and VE's over the
years and here are the copouts.

I don't have time. The most common one. VE's here have found that 15 min a
day EVERY day practice and in a month --90%+ pass the code test BUT the
other 10% spend all night on the boob tube.

I'll never use code. (You may never have to parallel park either) (if they
still require that)

I can't take tests (Has Drivers License and a BSEE)

Its a lot easier to get on CB

Its too expensive (has $1000 computer, can't afford a Swan 350 at $250)

Its so illogical (so is a job interview at times)

Notice I didn't even mention whether I am a Ham or not -- Tech no-code or
Extra ---pro or anti-code -- cause that ain't got nothing to do with --
PASS THE TEST


"Alun Palmer" wrote in message
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"Guessing" wrote in
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Someone squawked
As an engineer myself, I can verfiy that lots of engineers have told
me exactly that. Whether they would get a licence once code testing is
abolished might be another matter.

Nonsense and a big copout

It happens to be the truth, whether you like it or not


If you want a BS/MS/PHD Degree -- pass the tests
Want a driver license -- take a test
Want a job - take a drug test and physical exam and perhaps a
professional test
Want insurance -- take a physical exam
Want to be an apprentice (JourneyPerson) -- take the test
Want to advance in the Military -- take the test
Pass the Bar (Legal that is) Pass Da Test
Nurses CPR for sure and maybe ACLS Tests
Sobriety Test -- Try to dodge this one
et al tests
Want an HF Ham license -- take the code and Technical/Rules et al test

Code won't be included in that for much longer. I assume that since you
just say 'take the test' about everything, that you must have no problem
with that. I certainly don't!

Otherwise we have CB and FRS. And one who listens on these bands ought
to be totally inspired to get a Ham Ticket !!!

Simple as that.


You live in a 'black and white' world, don't you?

Anyone who used the code as an excuse for not becoming a ham, just
wasn't serious about it.


An unsupported assertion, and untrue

If 10 to 17 year olds can do it, why can't an engineer or any other
college grad ???


Code aptitude and IQ are completely unrelated

Did any of those "Engineers" get a No-Code Tech license ??

Yes, I did (although I did code eventually)

Didn't think so !!