"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ...


Hey Carl, refresh me, how many "channels" to we have on 20M? Once a
Tech always Tech huh?

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Bite me.
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I love it when you talk dirty Carl.

"Channel impariments" refer to the "propagation channel" and if you
had an idea of where to beg, borrow, rent, or steal a clue you'd
know that ... but then again, it's a technical term ... I guess I shouldn't
expect that you would be familiar with it ...

I know exactly what a channel is. Lotta people have made the mistake
of underestimating what I actually know Carl.


I'll tellya what the average contester's response to your basic
concept would be: "Why would I go thru all these computer pushups when
all I have to do is fire up my radios and get on the air and have the
real thing?"

Is loading a program onto your PC such a difficult thing for you?
Poor fellow.

No Carl, I'm actually quite adept at loading software. I'm also quite
adept at getting on the air without needing a computer which I much
prefer unless I want to run RTTY or PSK/MSK.

The idea is to provide the same user experience in terms of noise,
fading, static, QRM, etc. WITHOUT actually trashing the band
in a way that precludes other uses at the same time.

Yeah, uh-huh. Everybody give up real-time on-the-air interaction with
the natural vagaries of propagation, interferences and "unprocessed"
direct contact with other humans and climb into their Winboxes and
play computer games while Stevenson & Coffman Inc. trash the bands
their way.

No even after pigs learn to fly Carl.

Don't take my word for any of it Carl. Request the NPRM and see what
happens. Oughta be a piece of cake for you since you know all them
guys.

As far as "reliable and robust" is concerned if I need both or either
all I have to do is dial into Ma Bell's system or log in via my ISP.
Who needs your "help" if that's all I want?

And when you need that reliability and robustness for emergency comms
and conditions are poor? Oh, yea, you rely on Morse ... despite the
fact that there are alternatives that are "better" (as defined in my reply
to Jim) ... how quaint.

Bull****. When were the last three times any hams handled or tried to
handle any serious emergency over a difficult HF path with any mode?
"Reliability and robustness for emergency comms" is about the weakest
justification for your "system" I can imagine.

I suspect that I could shred your system reliability claims with a few
keystrokes in Mathcad by simply running a system parts count vs.
reliability analysis. How many parts are there in a laptop anyway?

I'm not into RACES and never stated that I was. But I have passed more
third party long-haul H&W traffic than you'll ever manage to do and
every bit of it was via SSB. Plus I've passed a bit of minor emergency
traffic via vhf FM.

I have two charged & ready to roll 2M 5w HTs with gain antennas right
here Carl and a couple 50w 2M mobile rigs. I can toss either in the
car and have it on the air in a minute or two. If things get really
nasty I also have an HF mobile rig I can also "deploy" in the car. And
I don't need a computer to do any of it. Everybody knows that only
place in the ham bands you'll likely run into a real emergency is on
2M and I'm good to go right now while you're still "planning" some
grandiose homebrewed Lehigh County EOC. Not that I expect that to
actually happen of course.


Carl - wk3c

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