"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
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"Brian Kelly" wrote:

(snip) Can you cite a single example of a nocode who
"pushed the hobby/service forward" since then? (snip)


In what way are we supposed to push the hobby/service forward? Give us
an
example - an example of something a person with code ability has done in
the
last two to three decades to push the hobby/service forward.

As I see it, the Technicians are doing pretty much doing the same things
the other license holders are doing - talking on the radio, tinkering with
their equipment, occasionally going to club meetings, occasionally helping
out in disasters, and so on. All of these are contributions. Obviously,
nothing special since other license holders are also doing the same
things,
but I wasn't aware Technicians were expected to do more than the other
license holders.


And while you're at it perhaps you can explain what
would change in this respect by handing nocodes access
to the HF bands too?


You, Brian, aren't handing access to the HF bands to those without code
ability. Regardless, since you're opposed to HF access for those without
code ability, and that position is out of step with the current trend, it
is
up to you to make an argument to support that position. Demanding more
from
those without code ability than those with is not exactly a strong
argument.


One of the big no-code arguments is that code was keeping highly qualified
people out of ham ram radio and that these people would push the hobby
forward technically. So the other side asked what have the current
no-coders done to push it forward to prove that dropping the code altogether
would bring in the hi-tech types since we ought to have a bunch of hi-tech
types in the no-code tech group. If one looks at reality, only a very, very
limited handful of people came up with the technical advances regardless of
license class so it's probably not a fair question anyway. Plus it would be
skewed by the fact that prior to the no-code tech license, all hams had to
have code. Neither side has a good argument attempting to use this point
to prove anything.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE