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July 27th 03, 07:13 PM

On 25 Jul 2003 03:43:08 GMT, ospam (Larry Roll K3LT)
wrote:

In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Okay, thanks Larry, just wanted to clarify that.

One last other question, define "whining." Is that anything that you just
don't want to hear, or ?? Again, I am asking this actually seriously, not
fecetiously (sp.?) At least I am attempting to see your side of
it............

One could view anything that they don't wanna hear as whining, and if thats
the case I hear thousands of "whining words" on a daily basis.

Ryan:

I would define "whining" as "shrill, uncontrolled complaint, usually made on
a topic of concern to the individual making the complaint

....such as Morse code testing in the ARS?

but without any
particular basis for objection other than the subject in question is a matter
which the individual feels powerless to control,

....such as the fact that Morse code testing in the ARS is likely to go
away, sooner or later?

or chooses not to control
by virtue of the personal effort or expense involved. The "whining" is usually
directed at a person or organization the "whiner" considers to be responsible
for the situation to which the "whiner" objects.

....such as NCTAs who have the unmitigated audacity to express their
opinion on the subject?

I will admit that most mature, hard-working, industrious and ingenious people
definitely "don't want to hear" whining.

Who does?

For example, I certainly didn't
appreciate being accused of being like Hitler,

As an aside to this topic, does anyone know for sure whether ol'
Adolph knew Morse code? Just curious...

and in favor of things like
"ethnic cleansing" because I supported the concept of code testing in the ARS.
I truly could have done without hearing that, to be sure!

Well, I haven't seen you post anything suggesting that no-code hams be
rounded up and sent to concentration camps or anything like that...not
yet anyway...so I guess I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. :-)

Despite all the shrill, uncontrolled complaints - on both sides of the
issue - the international requirement is no more. The testing
requirement in the USA probably will follow suit sooner or later.
Hmmm...maybe it *is* an ethnic thing: Does red whine or white whine go
best with crow?

For one thing, it
quite possibly could have spared me the time I've spent on Usenet in the
last 14 years.

Now there's a shrill, uncontrolled complaint if I ever heard one.

73 DE John, KC2HMZ